With apoligies to Don Eastlake - this is actually NOT a topic for the new nomcom procedures group as it deals with current procedures and lack of volunteers. Stephen - as far as I know the "strict" requirements are that you have attended two of the last three meetings and are not currently either an IESG or IAB member. Given that somewhere on the order of 2000 people attend each meeting I would be surprised if there were less than 1200 eligible. In fact, just looking at the attendence lists for Minn and Salt Lake reveals over a 120 eligibles in the first 3% of the combined list (I took the lists, deleted everything but the email addresses, concatenated them and sorted then looked for duplicate addresses). I served on one nomcom, chaired one and advised one - I'd like to think that I made a difference. I want to echo Eliot 59 volunteers IS puny If you want to have an effect on the IETF, volunteer to help choose the IAB and IETF. As it stands right now, you've only got a one in six chance of actually having to do anything and isn't that a reasonable risk to be able to say "stop bothering me - I volunteered already"? With respect to the person who was complaining about US centric teleconferences - two of the three noncoms I was on had a member from Australia. We arranged the telecons to try and avoid having anyone have to be awake at 2am local time... Mike On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:53:43 -0500 Stephen Sprunk <ssprunk@cisco.com> wrote: Thus spake "Eliot Lear" <lear@cisco.com> > ... who thinks that 59 volunteers for NONCOM is pretty puny? If you're > truly not interested in the future of the IETF I suppose you oughtn't > send your name in. Otherwise, why aren't you volunteering? 59 out of how many elligible? The criteria to volunteer are pretty strict, not to mention the stuff selectees actually have to *do*. S