Well, D'Crock old buddy;-)... Good to see you are stalking me still. I was beginning to think that maybe you had lost your taste for stalking. So, I shall break my long standing rule and reply to you directly just this once. We don't seem to agree that the user might well enjoy having some choices that you would like to keep them from having, and since there is a market demand and no law against meeting said market demand, the natural fulfillment events follow. Every user of the ORSC root service has decided to install the IP address of an ORSC root server in their own password controlled DNS settings file, and you and your buddies have no tool other than stalking and badgering to inhibit them from making their choice. Thanks you for the opportunity to point this out to a large number of knowledgeable people. It is like an election, only in this case, voting early and often (with every DNS query) is the appropriate mode of behavior. Further, .BIZ was the 2nd new TLD approved by Jon Postel back in 1996, so it had a very legitimate birth, which ICANN has chosen to ignore. So, now then, who died and made you king? Enjoy your crown while you have it. Just remember, when you run over someone just because they are in your way, it is not a good way to make friends and influence people. Sometimes other people take note of your Kingly behavior. Cheers...\Stef At 12:34 AM -0700 8/1/02, Dave Crocker wrote: >At 11:39 PM 7/31/2002 -0700, Einar Stefferud wrote: >>All of this went very well until ICANN chose to add a new TLD that >>conflicted with our ORSC .BIZ TLD which was a long time member in >>good standing in the ORSC "family. > >Stef, > >This federation that you are describing was formed without any >involvement of IANA/ICANN. It was done entirely independently. > >So the idea that IANA/ICANN was somehow obligated to coordinate its >own activities with an independent effort is a very basic non >sequitur. > >d/ > >---------- >Dave Crocker <mailto:dave@tribalwise.com> >TribalWise, Inc. <http://www.tribalwise.com> >tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.850.1850