In regards to all comments. Yes I'm using linux 2.4.x, and I'm disabling linux to handle ECN, because there is too much trouble with important organisations we are working with. I gave early an URL that lists some of these organisations like some important departments of the US government.... Please stop arguing on how a router should handle bits. There is a problem here ISOC or ISOC's ISP has some broken routers (we all agree on that?) and they need to be fixed. Who will help to fix it? I have highlighted the problem to ISOC, Lynn and Anne, but it is a little bit technical for ISOC (hmm???) and I'm too far away to be of any help (I'm in Fiji), so someone has to do the next bit: find out which router is broken and call the manager of the router and propose him a solution... During this time the band played on..... Franck Martin Network and Database Development Officer SOPAC South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission Fiji E-mail: franck@sopac.org <mailto:franck@sopac.org> Web site: http://www.sopac.org/ <http://www.sopac.org/> Support FMaps: http://fmaps.sourceforge.net/ <http://fmaps.sourceforge.net/> Certificate: https://www.sopac.org/ssl/ This e-mail is intended for its addresses only. Do not forward this e-mail without approval. The views expressed in this e-mail may not be necessarily the views of SOPAC.