On Wed, 01 May 2002 00:44:33 EDT, Bill Cunningham <billcu@citynet.net> said: > My personal chief concern right now is if they begin taxing products bought I'd be more worried about the *paperwork* involved than the actual tax... > and sold over the net. This thing the FBI is rumored to have a carnivore It's not a rumor. > box. Do the ISP's have to let them hook them up to this thing? Well.. you know.. there's this thing called a subpoena.. Usually kind of hard to ignore them. ;) Clued ISPs already have networks instrumented to trap the sort of things that Carnivore catches (now *that* should make you think for a moment, too). Carnivore is targeted at the less-clued ISPs, where hooking it up once would be a major benefit. Of course, the problem then becomes "How do you make sure it's only capturing the data it's supposed to?" (Read http://www.epic.org/crypto/scarfo/murch_aff.pdf for a good example of how hard it is to only record the data that you're supposed to - and then ask yourself how it would have played out differently if the FBI had decided to be a bit less careful about following ALL the rules in that case...). /Valdis