FYI. Dedicated VPN HW Hits $1.3 Billion as shown at http://www.infonetics.com/resources/quarterly_worldwide_market_share_forecas ts_4q01.htm It has a sizeable installation out there, though it does have some large deployment issues. Michael Shieh -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alten [mailto:Alten@attbi.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:26 PM To: Steven M. Bellovin; William Allen Simpson Cc: ietf@ietf.org; ipsec@lists.tislabs.com Subject: Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security [... skip...] It seems to have decided, IPsec has settled into a fairly modest VPN market niche ($200M/yr revenues or so?). It is not turned on by (or not available on) at least 99% of the Internet hosts. [... skip....] - Alex -- Alex Alten Alten@ATTBI.com