Evil[1] is always the manipulator of good ideas. Evil[1] will fill the greater good, if we do not act now. by act now I do not want a whitelist that is "publicly" maintained. -Wonko the Sane [1]=U.C.E. At 07:11 PM 3/16/02 -0500, Keith Moore wrote: >> And if I'm going to read a list, I'd >> much rather it be well run than just easy to post to. I define well >> run as _both_ spam-free and lacking in moderation delays. > >I define "well run" as having a high signal-to-noise ratio, >low moderation delay, a well-defined moderation policy that >evaluates messages visibly and impartially without considering >who authored them, and a low barrier to successful posting >of relevant content - even by non-subscribers. > >Expecting contributors to explicitly add their addresses to >a whitelist using obscure knowledge that is specific to >a particular list or software or moderator, and completely >unrelated to the knowledge required to contribute to the list, >imposes an unacceptably high barrier. > >But if we somehow made this process uniform from one list to >another, spammers would just add themselves to the whitelist. > >Keith > >p.s. though it is intriguing to consider - what if the instructions >for commenting on a draft were embedded somewhere within that >draft, so people would actually have to read it before commenting? > >