RE: TFRC average loss interval calculation

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Hi Arjuna,

See inline...

Tom P.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arjuna Sathiaseelan [mailto:arjuna.sathiaseelan@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:53 AM
> To: Jeroen Van Velthoven
> Cc: dccp@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  TFRC average loss interval calculation
> 
> Ok I went through the audio archive - and Tom Phelan points out the
[Tom] 
I think it's pretty unlikely that I said that -- I'm as confused as the
rest of you with regard to this.  But I do remember that someone else
said this, maybe someone speaking for Eddie's input from jabber.


> same problem - that some implementations average the loss intervals
> over 8 samples even though there are less than 8..So I guess - the
> correct thing would be to average them based on the no of samples
> currently available..So the ns-2 code needs to reflect the change..My
> few cents - do correct me if I am wrong :)
> 
> -A
> 
> On 4/20/06, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Dear Jeroen,
> >  I concur with your views - I guess this question was raised in the
> > recent IETF
> > meeting. Maybe someone can shed proper light on this :).
> >
> > Regds,
> > Arjuna
> >
> > On 4/20/06, Jeroen Van Velthoven <jeroen.vanvelthoven@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I am performing some experiments with DCCP/TFRC.  Therefore, I'm
using
> the
> > > DCCP implementation of Mattsson.  My question relates to the
> calculation of
> > > the average loss interval as it is done by this implementation.
As
> > > specified the TFRC RFC, the 8 most recent loss intervals are used
to
> obtain
> > > the average loss interval.  However, also when the first loss
event
> occurs
> > > and in every situation where the number of initialized loss
intervals
> is
> > > strictly smaller than 8, this implementation takes the sum W_{tot}
of
> all 8
> > > weights and uses this result to determine the average loss
interval.
> > >
> > > I would assume that when the loss history contains only two loss
> intervals,
> > > it is sufficient to take only these weights into account when
> calculating
> > > W_{tot}.  This would not result in an overestimate of the loss
event
> rate
> > > you get by taking into account the total of the 8 weights.
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm that the number of weights you need to use to
> obtain the
> > > average loss interval equals the minimum of 8 and the number of
the
> actually
> > > created loss intervals?
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jeroen
> > >
> > >
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> > > Jeroen Van Velthoven
> > >
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> > >
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> > > Dept. Mathematics and Computer Science
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> > > B-2020 Antwerp
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Arjuna
> >
> > Postdoctoral Researcher
> > Engineering Research Lab,
> > Department of Engineering,
> > University of Aberdeen
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Arjuna
> 
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Engineering Research Lab,
> Department of Engineering,
> University of Aberdeen




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