Re: Ubuntu overheating since 11.10 for a lot of thinkpad computers

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Let's do a more useful correct bug report.

Note that i'm not sure it is related with thinpad_acpi but since i've
no clues....

My system is Thinkpad T500 with ubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-24-generic-pae).

Since ubuntu 11.10, I've noticed that my computer reboots when high
CPU charge due to excessive heat (more than 100°).

Furthermore, battery lifetime has been cut in half (less than 2 hours
instead of 4 to 5 hours).

I've tried the following solutions without any results:

1> === ASPM problem since linux 3.0 ===

I've the following message from kernel:

$ dmesg | grep ASPM
[    0.000000] PCIe ASPM is forcibly enabled
[    0.164377] ACPI FADT declares the system doesn't support PCIe
ASPM, so disable it

If i try pcie_aspm=force as kernel switch, I've the following output:

$ dmesg | grep ASPM
[    0.000000] PCIe ASPM is forcibly enabled
[    0.197865] ACPI FADT declares the system doesn't support PCIe
ASPM, so disable it

But the problem is still present form 11.10 to my latest kernel.

2> === thinkfan ===

Some people suggests a problem with fan speed:

<http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610722>

But even if I use the latest version of thinkfan with this patch
included, nothing change.

Furthermore, the problem is still present if I set the fan to manual
mode and maximum speed:

$ rmmod thinkpad_acpi
$ modprobe thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1
$ echo "level 127" > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan

3> === powertop ===

Using powertop I found the following informations:

1. turbo mode is engaged 25% of the time

 Package             | CPU 0
 Turbo Mode  24.4%   | Turbo Mode  21.7%
 2.81 Ghz     1.8%   | 2.81 Ghz     1.6%
 2.14 Ghz     0.9%   | 2.14 Ghz     0.9%
 1.60 Ghz     3.3%   | 1.60 Ghz     3.3%
  800 Mhz    57.5%   |  800 Mhz    55.2%
 Idle        12.1%   | Idle        17.4%

                     |            CPU 1
                     | Turbo Mode  24.1%
                     | 2.81 Ghz     1.8%
                     | 2.14 Ghz     0.9%
                     | 1.60 Ghz     3.2%
                     |  800 Mhz    54.5%
                     | Idle        15.5%

2. a lot of devices are flagged as "not using power economy mode":

   Bad           Enable SATA link power management for /dev/sda
   Bad           NMI watchdog should be turned off
   Bad           Power Aware CPU scheduler
   Bad           VM writeback timeout
   Bad           Enable Audio codec power management
   Bad           Autosuspend for USB device Fingerprint Sensor [4-1]
   Bad           Autosuspend for USB device USB Receiver (Logitech)
   Bad           Autosuspend for USB device Android Phone (HTC)
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation Mobile 4
Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE
1394 Controller
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation Mobile 4
Series Chipset MEI Controller
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82567LF
Gigabit Network Connection
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture
Card Controller
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory
Stick Bus Host Adapter
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822
SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation Mobile 4
Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation Ultimate
N WiFi Link 5300
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation
82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5
   Bad           Runtime PM for PCI Device Intel Corporation 82801I
(ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1

4> === intel_acpi ===

A similar bug (with the same effect) has been found and resolved in
acpi code of Linux:

<https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42858#8>

But is is already present in the latest ubuntu kernel I'm using. But
this similar behavior may be a clue, maybe trying to bring the idea of
this patch to thinkpad-acpi ?

5> === other ideas ===

- Some people suggest opening my computer and clean it, but I cannot
due to guaranty. Anyway, I'm not sure it is the only problem, as this
problem appears in suddenly with ubuntu 11.10.

- some people also suggest possible overheat from the GPU but using
conky with thinkpad thermal sensor number 5 I cannot see excessive
heat from this part.

6> === references ===

Bug report in ubuntu (one of the hottest ubuntu bugs, so a lot of
people has this problem):

<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/751689

More details aout my tests with aspm and powertop:

<http://askubuntu.com/questions/133030/overheating-and-reboot-with-ubuntu-11-10-and-12-04-on-thinpad-t500>

Just ask me if you need any trace, test, log messages...

Thank you for your help.

Julien


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Julien Iguchi-Cartigny
<kartoch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since ubuntu 11.10, some thinkpad computers suffer from overheating and
> reboot (due to excessive heat). You can follow the bug report here:
>
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/751689>
>
> After changing thinfan speed level, the problem stays. I've been trying
> some solutions but no clue for now:
>
> <http://askubuntu.com/questions/133030/overheating-and-reboot-with-ubuntu-11-10-and-12-04-on-thinpad-t500>
>
> A recent comment in the ubuntu bug report shows a linux bug with the
> same effect and its resolution on acpi:
>
> <https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42858>
>
> sadly, this fix is already present in Linux 12.04, but correct me if i'm
> wrong, the acpi managment is different for thinkpad, no ? If yes, could
> be this linux bug present in the thinkpad_acpi module ?
>
> Anyway, if you have any idea how to diagnose the problem, i'm ready to help.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julien
>
>
>



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