Re: duplicate MAC addresses

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On 8/25/09, Alan Jenkins <sourcejedi.lkml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 8/24/09, marty <marty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> John Stoffel wrote:
>>>>>>>> "marty" == marty  <marty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>
>>> marty> Greg KH wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 04:27:04PM -0400, marty wrote:
>>>>>>>> I got trouble...
>>>>>>>> (duplicate MAC addresses)
>>>>>> That's a bug in your hardware, have you asked your manufacturer to
>>>>>> resolve this for you?  That violates the ethernet spec...
>>>
>>> marty> I have resolved that problem as of today. I found this was
>>> marty> caused by the software I had been using. If a hardware issue
>>> marty> remains, it is moot.
>>>
>>> marty> The bonding driver/utilities normally sets the bond address to
>>> marty> the MAC of the first NIC. But it also set the MAC of the slave
>>> marty> (eth3) to the MAC of the first NIC. This persists through
>>> marty> reboots so that is how my MACs got duplicated.
>>>
>>> marty> Resetting the MAC corrected those problems and everything works
>>> marty> fine now.
>>>
>>> Doesn't this point to a udev rules problem?  What should happen if
>>> there are conflicting devices which both satisfy a condition, but
>>> where only one device is allowed to match?
>>>
>>> Now I realize that with MAC addresses you're actually allowed to have
>>> multiple NICs on a host all with the SAME Mac addr, but only if
>>> they're on different segments.  Older Sun boxes all used to have a
>>> single MAC address across all ports.  This usually isn't a problem
>>> since the ethernet spec says that MAC addresses are local to the
>>> segment, and with switches and bridges, the segment is is limited.
>>>
>>> Fails when you have bonding drivers and other HA tricks which I'm not
>>> up on though.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OOPS... Duplicate MACS won't work on a single box. On a network, yes.
>> Duplicate MACS mess everything up, because the lower networking layers do
>> not
>> use IP addresses. They depend on the MAC to route the traffic.
>>
>> I thought this was a udev problem. Greg KH suggested a hardware problem,
>> but
>> I fixed it by removing the bonding driver from my config. Took a lot of
>> debug.
>> I am using shorewall to configure iptables, which has another means to
>> handle
>> multiple ISP's using packet marking. Works and as far as I can see no
>> issues.
>>
>> I was able to make the bonding driver work, but only if I manually
>> corrected
>> the
>> borked MAC beforehand. My changes didn't survive reboot. Something is
>> broken
>> in
>> that driver. I haven't looked as yet but I'm sure someone will discover
>> it.
>>
>> There was a issue with udev, however not a rule; the LFS bootscripts I
>> use
>> were guilty. --retry-failed is in invalid option on udev-1.46. Caused a
>> big
>> delay for some reason. I commented it out and it boots fast now.
>>
>> BTW, this is a handy thing we can do on linux.
>> ip link set eth0 address 01:02:03:04:05:06
>> That will set a MAC address and survives reboot (on my system anyway).
>
> That's a bug, and it's what causes you grief when you reboot with a
> bonding configuration.  I'm pretty sure it's fixable.

To be more specific, it's fine to set the MAC address; the bug is that
the change survives a reboot.

> Your DNS was down or something when I elaborated on this earlier
> <http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/14491>.  You
> wouldn't know from these crippled web interfaces, but I addressed the
> message to the r8169 maintainer.  No reply yet though.
>
> Regards
> Alan
>
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