On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:11:29PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 13:12 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:27, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 07:45, Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:21:11AM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > > >>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 18:37, Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>> > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:00:59AM +0200, Jar wrote: > > >>> >> Greg KH wrote: > > >>> >>> HAL contains a list of these modems and a mapping of each port to what > > >>> >>> it does based on the specific device. > > >>> >>> Try using that instead of udev specific rules for your accessed to the > > >>> >>> modem, it will work much better. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Thanks for your reply! Does HAL require that I have desktop installed, this > > >>> >> is my home "server" machine without X? Do you have any starting point or > > >>> >> where to learn more how to do this with HAL. > > >>> > > > >>> > I do not think HAL requires X. Try asking on your distro mailing list > > >>> > for how they have incorporated HAL into the releases you are using. > > >>> > > >>> It might get pretty complicated to use D-Bus/HAL for simple setups, > > >>> and rather static configurations like this. NetworkManager handles > > >>> that, and we will even get modem-probing soon, but in cases like this > > >>> it might be easier to have a simple - not very flexible - but working > > >>> solution. > > >>> > > >>> Maybe we can have an "index" sysfs file at the serial device, which > > >>> carries the instance number, per usb device? This would allow us to > > >>> create persistent links which do not depend on the kernel device > > >>> enumeration across multiple device. > > >>> > > >>> We did the same for v4l devices recently: > > >>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=539a7555b31e65e66fb84c881d07d2bf18c974d0 > > >>> > > >>> Greg, what do you think? > > >> > > >> Don't we already have something like this today (the "ports" on an > > >> individual usb-serial device)? Or do we just need to export that a bit > > >> better? > > > > > > Yeah, maybe that works already. I don't have such a device. > > > > Ok, I found one. You mean "port_number", right? But unfortunately it > > looks pretty useless in this case. :) > > > > $ grep . /sys/bus/usb-serial/devices/*/port_number > > /sys/bus/usb-serial/devices/ttyUSB1/port_number:0 > > /sys/bus/usb-serial/devices/ttyUSB2/port_number:0 > > > > They would only be not "0" if the serial lines would be on the same > > usb interface? > > > > We would need a per-device enumeration, but that's nothing the > > usb-serial stuff knows/cares about if we have different usb > > interfaces, right? > > Greg, do you have a usb multi-port serial card? Can you possibly give > this a try, and show us "tree /dev/serial"? > > I have this here now for my "simple" devices: > /dev/serial > `-- by-id > |-- usb-067b_2303-serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0 > |-- usb-HUAWEI_Technology_HUAWEI_Mobile-serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB1 > `-- usb-HUAWEI_Technology_HUAWEI_Mobile-serial-if01-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB2 > > If we can make that work as expected, I'll look into by-path/, so we can > have identical devices properly identified, if needed. Then we can check > how we should finally name all that, and possibly add that stuff to the > default rule set. This looks good, here's the output using udev 133 and the rules and a few usb-serial devices plugged into the system at the same time: $ tree /dev/serial/ /dev/serial/ `-- by-id |-- usb-Inside_Out_Networks_Edgeport | |-- 4_04-01-006467-serial-if00-port0 -> ../../../ttyUSB0 | |-- 4_04-01-006467-serial-if00-port1 -> ../../../ttyUSB1 | |-- 4_04-01-006467-serial-if00-port2 -> ../../../ttyUSB2 | `-- 4_04-01-006467-serial-if00-port3 -> ../../../ttyUSB3 |-- usb-Keyspan__a_division_of_InnoSys_Inc._USB_4-port_Serial_Adapter-serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB8 |-- usb-Keyspan__a_division_of_InnoSys_Inc._USB_4-port_Serial_Adapter-serial-if00-port1 -> ../../ttyUSB9 |-- usb-Keyspan__a_division_of_InnoSys_Inc._USB_4-port_Serial_Adapter-serial-if00-port2 -> ../../ttyUSB10 |-- usb-Keyspan__a_division_of_InnoSys_Inc._USB_4-port_Serial_Adapter-serial-if00-port3 -> ../../ttyUSB11 |-- usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB-Serial_Controller-serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB7 |-- usb-Sierra_Wireless__Incorporated_AirCard-serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB4 |-- usb-Sierra_Wireless__Incorporated_AirCard-serial-if00-port1 -> ../../ttyUSB5 `-- usb-Sierra_Wireless__Incorporated_AirCard-serial-if00-port2 -> ../../ttyUSB6 I'm not so sure about the long names, but it is unique :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
