Hi Greg, Upon further investigation, you are absolutely right. The rule does nothing -- at some point my system simply started creating the device node without the rule, so I never noticed that the rule wasn't serving a purpose. I don't know why my system wasn't originally creating the device node, but typing "ls -lR /proc/bus/usb /dev/bus/usb" and comparing the two clearly showed the required node missing in /dev/bus/usb relative to /proc/bus/usb when the device was plugged in, so I started experimenting with creating udev rules. A reboot (or something else) must have fixed the original problem. At this point this is purely a permissions issue, so I will file a bug against ConsoleKit (and will let you know if I can reliably duplicate the "dev node missing" problem again -- although I can't seem to right now). Much appreciation for your help! Luke On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Luke Hutchison wrote: >> Debugging the new T-Mobile G1 Android phone over a USB transport >> doesn't work out of the box on Linux, because udev does not >> automatically create a device node for the phone in >> /dev/bus/usb/###/### when the phone is plugged in. Interestingly, the >> correct entry is created in /proc/bus/usb by hotplug, and the phone >> works fine as a mass storage device, but as adb (the Android debugger) >> scans through /dev/bus/usb for Android devices, it does not detect the >> phone by default. >> >> Adding the following rule causes the device node to be created: >> >> SUBSYSTEM=="usb",ATTR{idVendor}=="0bb4",ATTR{idProduct}=="0c02" >> >> Why would this rule need to be added for the device node to be >> created? Shouldn't udev just create the device node even if it >> doesn't recognize the device? > > Yes, it should, I don't understand what this rule does. It only > contains rules to match a device, and then does nothing with it. > >> The above rule doesn't give the console user the needed r/w perms on >> the device, this will still need to be handled by ConsoleKit or >> similar. > > Exactly. > > What does running 'udevadm monitor' and then plugging the device in > show? > >> Somehow generically fixing this upstream would be very helpful as >> (based on various G1 dev forums) the exact udev rule needed to get >> this working seems to vary across distributions. > > No new rule should be needed at all to create the usbfs device node for > it, the "default" ones should work just fine. > > thanks, > > greg k-h > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html