On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200 John Tall <mjtallx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > And you want the GNOME developers to support all of them? I want GTK+ developers to stick to GUI development with minimal dependencies, and certainly no DE-specific dependencies, and not engage the entire Red Hat stack in the GUI, as they've already tried to do multiple times, including in their handling of this bug report. > GTK+ does not require systemd. Tell that to the Red Hat devs - they seem to believe there are requirements for it. > GTK+ does not require GNOME. Indeed, and that is why it still has value to me and my users, and why I described as misinformation the distortions being given by those GTK+ developers, who were telling us that we can't expect GTK+ to operate reasonably when we pick and choose components, or don't install all of GNOME (gvfs etc), and we can expect no support without GNOME. > GTK+ does not care about the init system or distro. Indeed, and yet those Red Hat employees were telling us that systemd should be universal, and were injecting that discussion into a GTK+/GIO bug, obstructing a trivial solution. I wonder why. > GTK+ is not a Red Hat project. Try making a commit without Red Hat's permission, or making any change in a direction Red Hat doesn't approve of. Try reporting any bug like this one, and see who responds, and how, and who starts threatening people. Anyone volunteering efforts to GTK is being scammed. GTK used to be a community-driven and created project, now Red Hat is merely exploiting volunteers, ignoring user input (users are furious), and dictating engineering directions. Real free software developers listen to users. Corporations don't, they dictate. You can measure a Linux project pretty easily that way. _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
