For various technical reasons I won't go into right now, one of my Gtk apps need to know what size certain buttons it is going to create will get, before it actually creates them. Is there any way at all I can calculate this? The buttons will contain pixmaps, and I have the image data for those, so I actually know the size of the "contents" of the buttons, but the total size of a button is somewhat larger as (apparently) borders are always added, so how do I find the size of these? The border associated with the "border-width" property is not the one I want, I think, but rather extra borders that magically appear based on the the style or theme or I don't know what. Help, anyone? - Toralf _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list