On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:40, Paul Davis wrote: > >It's hard to get stuff into GTK+ because GTK+ has very high quality levels. > > it does for additions. yet we've had misdesigned stuff like the combo > and the file selector around for years. that's where the paradox lies: > i love the high standards for additions, but it wasn't applied to the > first round of widgets GTK+ got. ok, i understand the rationale: "we > know its bad, but we're not replacing with something that isn't really > good". net result: misdesigned widgets that live for years. > > >That's good. If people want something to go into GTK+ then they have to be > >prepared to discuss it thoroughly, provide rationale, and go through a few > >iterations until they get it right. So far nobody has done that for these > >things. It's not up to the GTK+ maintainers to do it all. Stuff happens when > >people care enough about it to do it themselves. > > but when there is no sign that you can ever succeed in adding a widget > unless you are part of the core team, the motivation to try is a bit > hard to come up with. and that really *is* my perception: if you're > not owen or havoc or tim, don't bother thinking you can add a new > widget to GTK+. i know i'm not the only person who thinks this, > although i'm open to the possibility that its wrong. I think Murray and others have answered this well, but there is an amusing observation to be made: Widgets in GTK+ by: Owen: GtkAspectFrame (1997), GtkInputDialog (1997), Gtk[HV]Paned (1997) Tim: GtkAccelLabel (1998), GtkTipsQuery (1998) Havoc: GtkTextView Of course, this is sort of deceptive since Tim and I have done lots of major work on non-widget subsystems, but we don't exactly dominate the current set of widgets or the set of recent additions. Does getting a new widget into GTK+ take a lot of persistance? Yes. That's generally a good thing -- we'd like to avoid too many more widgets in GTK+ like GtkAspectFrame, GtkInputDialog, and GtkTipsQuery. Regards, Owen _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
