Re: Which Windows platforms should GnuGk support ?

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Thanks for all the feedback.

Does anybody know if 64bit code makes a difference for address
randomization ? On Linux randomization with PIE costs 5-10% speed on
x86 and virtually nothing on 64bit. Is the same true on Windows ?

Regards,
Jan


David Dahlberg wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 05.09.2013, 22:22 +0300 schrieb Ionut Muntean:
> > On 9/5/13 10:11 PM, Earl wrote:
> >
> >> I will be sticking to Linux x64 and Win XP for the rest of my life.
> >> I can't "move on" from XP since there is nowhere to go.
> >
> > I see no reason to switch to 64 bit Win 7 and many reasons not to.
> 
> As Windows XP is not getting any support from Microsoft after April
> 2014, you better should disconnect it from the net by then.
> 
> Regarding Jan's initial question, I would fully understand if you would
> stop active development for Win XP right now and deliver necessary
> security patches only until April. By then, XP is dead anyway.
> 
> 
> >> The German office responsible for security issued a very public
> >> and strong warning to stay far away from Win 8.
> >
> > Really? And why is that? Any info?
> 
> IIRC it was the The New York Times who first reported that the Federal
> Office for Information Security (Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der
> Informationstechnik, BSI) would consider Windows 8 "unsecure and bugged
> by the NSA". Thereupon the BSI was forced to issue a press release,
> which is a bit more differentiated. 
> https://www.bsi.bund.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/Presse2013/Windows_TPM_Pl_21082013.html
> This is in German only, I am afraid. But the key points are:
> 
>  * The BSI does not warn the public nor corporates of the usage of
>     Windows 8
>  * The BSI has some issues with how TPM 2.0 and Windows 8 interact in
>    some scenaria.
>  * While TPM 2.0 may make sense for some users, the BSI fears that there
>    is a actual trend into the direction of taking away control from the
>    users/owners of devices to the manufacturers.
>    The BSI is not the only organisation to be critical of this trend
>    BTW. The CCC warned ever since that this situation of loss of control
>    over your own device might arise with TPM.
>  * The BSI wants device owners to have full control over them.
>    Mechanisms like TPM should be optional/opt-in.
> 
> So all in all you see, it is neither a "strong warning", nor was it
> issued "very publicly", nor did it say "stay away from Windows 8". It is
> more a general critisism of vendors taking away control of devices from
> the legitimate owners. This is true for a lot of vendors, but a lot of
> people are experiencing it right now after installing Windows 8, when
> "Trusted Boot" messes up multi-boot setups and such which did work until
> now.
> 
> Regards 
> 	David

-- 
Jan Willamowius, jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, http://www.gnugk.org/

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