Re: something to think about

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To all,

One thing that I feel is missing from both the GnuGK and the OpenH323
sites is some links to short, understandable explanations of the terms
and concepts that we experienced users throw around all of the time. 

For example, I have explained to several people this week that a
Gatekeeper does not have to do NAT translation - it's just that some
gatekeepers like GnuGK combine the functions of both gatekeeper and
proxy.

If anyone is interested, I have written a short summary of some of the
common H.323 terms in my blog at http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl87w7/blog/
Another useful site with some nice pictures can be found at
http://www.packetizer.com/iptel/h323/papers/primer/, with lots of
additional information at http://www.packetizer.com/iptel/h323

   Craig

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:33:20 +0200
Nir Simionovich <nirs@m-wise.com> wrote:

> Hi Tj,
> 
>    I must admit that I hadn't been a member of the list for a long time, but I
> believe that the problem your are referring to is something you can see on any
> product list. Be it an open-source product, or a closed-source product.
> 
>    I do admit that some of the questions re-appear here and there, but I believe
> it's a good thing. If a certain questions re-appears it means that the subject at
> hand is, most probably, not covered enough in the documentation, or the current
> product support for the subject is problematic to understand.
> 
>    For example, we all know that RADIUS integration is something which is built
> in to GnuGK, however, the actual integration process isn't straight forward. In
> addition, the modules that are available with most RADIUS servers will not give
> you what you want exactly. Now, this is just a small example, but I can find many
> other issues which are not covered by the manual, nor are they explained in the
> list entirely.
> 
>    I think that the main problem with the current status of things is slightly
> related to RTFh323RFC. But lets me logical, I don't think that many people here
> sat down to read the H323 RFC documents, which clearly state what a GateKeeper
> function is supposed to be, and how it should work. The questions people usually
> post to the list are ones that show that they didn't read the RFC (I don't claim
> that all should), or they simply didn't understand the manual (hell, I didn't
> understand the manual at first - I still don't understand parts of it).
> 
>    My suggestion is this, anyone who has a working GnuGK installation, which had
> deviated from the "standard" installation, is welcome to write a test-case document,
> describing the problems encountered and the solutions devised to handle the
> installation. These documents will be sent to a special moderator (or moderator
> group) who will evaluate the document, and will post it to the GnuGK website, or
> a seperate website - Linked from GnuGk.org. This way, the newcomers can have a
> first-place of referrence where they can dig up primary information.
> 
>    I've been dealing with the Linux Telephony world for the past year, and with
> GnuGK for the past 6 months. I can honestly say that without people like Mark Spencer
> (Digium), Jeremy McNamera (Nu-Fone), Aivis (DataTechLabs), Jan (GnuGK), Michal (GnuGK),
> I wouldn't been able to do what I do today. I believe that all the people on the list
> are wonderful, and they usually contribute to it when they can, and have something
> productive to say.
> 
> Kind Regards,
>    Nir Simionovich
> 

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