Hi Jeremy, Indeed, they are far from perfect. However, many VoIP GW's or proxies do prepaid operations with them... Indeed they are compicated, but as I know that they allow multiple calls per user... Since you say that they allow a single call per account number I am sure you must have good reasons. If you have the time, would you care to elaborate a bit on this off-list, since other users are probably not interested in this subject within the context of this mailing list? Best regards, Vlasis. Jeremy McNamara wrote: > Vlasis Hatzistavrou wrote: > > >I tend to agree with Teodor. > > > >Even if RADIUS was made to support dial-up and not voice, now all commercial and > >even open source packages support it. So, even if VSA's etc are indeed a problem, > >the Cisco VSA's at least tend to become a de-facto standard. > > > > > Cisco's VSA's are broken. They make it very very hard to do pre-paid > calling. Everyone says they have a solution, but none of them work > really well. They are either overcomplicated or only allow a single call > per account number. > > Jeremy McNamara > > >Consider the situation where you already have a billing system in place for some > >gateways who support RADIUS and you need to have a central billing system to > >support your the GNUGK as well. > > > >At this moment, I believe there is no alternative other than RADIUS. It is widely > >used and accepted. > > > >Best regards, > >Vlasis. > > > >Teodor Georgiev wrote: > > > > > > > >> IMHO, Radius is really needed for a GK. Some of the users here claim that > >>Radius should be used only in prepaid (+IVR) VoIP applications. > >>But the situation is the same in all the carriers. > >>You have customers and each of them has paid you a deposit (let say, $800). > >>Your gatekeeper must do realtime billing, so once his (customer's) deposit is > >>topped-up, the GK must put his account 'on-hold'. > >>IMHO, Radius is the best solution here as well, though not all of the VoIP > >>equipment vendors support it. Cisco, Quintum, Voicemaster do. IMHO, all the > >>reputable VoIP equipment companies support Radius. > >> > >> > >>On Friday 06 June 2003 01:23, VOIP Europe wrote: > >> > >> > >>><html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> > >>><DIV><FONT size=2> > >>><DIV>Dear sir ,</DIV> > >>><DIV>We are a new carrier.At the beginning we just want to use the GNUGK to > >>>route the volums between terminations and we want to konw whether we must > >>>need a Radius Server or not.If we must do you know where we can download a > >>>free Radius for Windows becaus we use GNUGK windows 2.0.4 version.Thanks a > >>>lot.</DIV> <DIV>and another point</DIV> > >>><DIV>in [RoutedMode]section > >>><BR>Q931PortRange=30000-39999<BR>H245PortRange=40000-49999<BR>for our Biz > >>>is must be used or not?</DIV> <DIV>Best Regards</DIV> > >>><DIV>Jimmy</DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Γβ·ΡΟΒΤΨ <a > >>>href="http://g.msn.com/8HMRCN/2746??PS=">MSN Explorer</a> </html> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best > thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features > you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. > _______________________________________________ > List: Openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id?49 > Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. _______________________________________________ List: Openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id?49 Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/