Hi Fred, Have you tried cinammon? It's all the good bits of GNOME, but without the "users are idiots / Apple fanboys" mentality. >Thank you and apologies for the rant. No problem. I had a very long and protracted rant at GNOME when F21 came out. (I actually opened a bug ticket against soundjuicer because I could not find the menu I needed - turned out it was there all along, just glued to the top of the wrong monitor.) I ought to turn that rant into a blog post, actually, because I think I made some good points. Cheers, Toby. _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list