On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 11:27 +0100, Michael Ikey Doherty wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 06:13 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 20:12 +0100, Michael Ikey Doherty wrote: > > receive any major developing, just a few bugs and translation updates > > -apart from GDBus implementation and ChatManager API." To me, that > > seems like a pretty darn significant "apart from" - it is about changing > > the architecture of the app. Empathy is pretty complete/mature, I > > wouldn't expect a hack-ton of stuff happening on the code base. This > > looks like automation/completeness stuff being added to a mature > > project. > Yeah, pretty large changes by anyones reckoning. Apparently not by the author's reckoning. :) > > > I ask because the wogue article, no > > > other reason. It makes it appear as if gnome-chat is completely dead (My > > > confusion was that I thought gnome-chat and empathy were to be merged, > > > apparently not :)) > > I suppose you could get something like an `official word` on emphathy's > > IRC channel. With two projects words like "merged" don't actually mean > > anything. Is that code, or ideas, or interface design, or the third > > icon to the left on the top? > Well this is why I'm confused - I don't see why we're not just improving > Empathy if its needed. Agree. But this is the nature of Open Source. There are a *lot* of Bunny Trails. And creating something is fun, when you are the solo guy you have complete freedom - so I understand the impulse. On the flip side I've been in FOSS for almost three decades - an enormous amount of effort gets wasted on "simplified", "lite", blah-blah re-implementation of things. If "lite" it-just-does-x version of things were stripped form indexes like FreshMeat they'd probably be 1/10th their current size; and inevitably those projects die as at the end of the day "lite" is not what people want - they want complete, works-well, and integrated. Lately the constellation of projects around GNOME seem to be going through a season of abundant lite-ness projects. > > > I'm talking about Empathy + gnome-chat, not Empathy and pidgin. Also, > > > does Polari now affect the status of gnome-chat? > > Polari is specifically an IRC client. There have been stand alone IRC > > clients since ... well, forever. I do not see an enumeration of what it > > offers over Empathy. > +1 Yep. > > Honestly, for me, I just don't see the point in gnome-chat or Polari... > > why not just contribute to Empathy? But this is Open Source, people can > > do what they want, and what works for them. There are a lot of projects > > other people don't see the point of. This is both a strength and a > > weakness of Open Source [a lot of ideas get to make it on the field, > > sometimes it is difficult for a good idea to accrue significant mass, > > and you always have people posting screenshots of barely working apps > > claiming to have invented something new]. > Well, that kinda is my take on it. Empathy has the mature codebase - it > would seem most sense to make Empathy better, rather than starting out > again for each subset of Telepathy support. But people are free to do whatever they want. It seems to me that Empathy is a pretty healthy *mature* project. Why someone would want to make yet-another-nearly-identical-chat-interface ... you would have to ask them? -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
