I'm using Debian Lenny -----Original Message----- From: gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David Harel Sent: 14 February 2010 13:36 To: Guy Rouillier Cc: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Remote login Guy Rouillier wrote: > Sorry, I did not see the original email. I'm top-posting because most > of what I have to say relates to the OP. I've used vnc successfully > numerous times, but not in quite awhile; in a work environment simple > ssh terminals are used most often, and at home I've switched to > running VMs. > > First off, from the original post, I'm not sure that the server has > been properly set up to run X (and hence Gnome.) "could not find XKB > extension": XKB is the keyboard and is required in any practical > configuration. I use either Ubuntu or Gentoo and I never had this problem, I take it you use Redhat? > > Have you ever connected to a graphical UI directly on this box to > verify that it is set up to run a GUI? Typically I would set some kind of X11 implementation on the local desktop machine and using ssh -X (or the equivalent) I would connect to the remote host. Not all the desktop of the remote machine will be available on the desktop of the local machine. Typically I would launch specific applications on the remote that will show the display on the local and in that case I typically like the local desktop to rule. > > Next, I've usually set /etc/vncserver (as root) to automatically start > up the required user sessions. You appear to be running vncserver as > a regular user. I suppose that works but I have no experience running > it that way. I was not successful with vncserver as plane user. Always as root. > > Finally, if the server is properly configured and you want to run a > GUI, vnc is the right way to go in my opinion. Remote X (cygwin) > sends individual windowing commands over the wire and will hence be > considerably slower than vnc. I believe that X11 protocol is more efficient than image transfer as VNC does. > > The proper way to initialize vnc is to log in via an ssh terminal to > start your GUI session. Then you log out and back in via vnc, which > should attach directly to your GUI session. Never tried that. Sounds interesting. Will try it next time I have to use this kind of setting. > > On 2/13/2010 2:44 PM, David Harel wrote: >> >> >> Duncan Garland wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> No replies in two weeks. Was it a stupid question? Is this the wrong >>> list? >> Not a stupid question at all. >>> Am I completely on the wrong track trying to use a vnc viewer to >>> remotely >>> view a gnome session? >> I would not use VNC here even though it is possible. Typically I would >> use text only interface using ssh (putty.exe will do). >> In addition you can install cygwin: http://x.cygwin.com/ and run X11 >> apps but I never tried it using ssh session. >>> I'll dig some more, but I think I must be googling the wrong keywords >>> because I didn't get anywhere last time. >>> >>> All the best. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Duncan Garland >>> Sent: 30 January 2010 16:45 >>> To: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Remote login >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying login to a Debian Lenny box from a Window XP box. I've got >>> dumb >>> terminal acess working properly, but I'd like to be able to access my >>> desktop as well. >>> >>> I've installed vnc4server on the Debian, and tightvncviewer on the >>> Windows >>> box. If I run vnc4server -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 24 on the Debian, >>> login >>> in via tightvncviewer and type gnome-session, it works after a fashion. >>> >>> The Desktop comes up, and I can access items such as the wastebasket. >>> However, I can't access the top menu with Applications, Places and >>> System on >>> it. It's frozen. >>> >>> I'm sure this must be easy to correct, but I don't normally get >>> involved in >>> this sort of thing and I don't really understand the terminology. >>> There are >>> quite a few error messages on startup: >>> >>> duncan@debian1:~$ gnome-session >>> SESSION_MANAGER=local/debian1:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4085 >>> ** Message: another SSH agent is running at: >>> /tmp/ssh-fwxDXn3909/agent.3909 >>> >>> ** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: numlock: XkbQueryExtension >>> returned an error >>> >>> ** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: Neither XKeyboard not >>> Xfree86's >>> keyboard extensions are available, >>> no way to support keyboard autorepeat rate settings >>> >>> ** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: Unable to start >>> a11y_keyboard >>> manager: XKB functionality is disabled. >>> >>> ** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: Failed to open file >>> '/etc/gnome/config/General.ad': No such file or directory >>> Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file >>> /home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms: >>> Failed to open file '/home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms': No >>> such >>> file or directory >>> Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. >>> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":1.0" already has a window >>> manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window >>> manager. >>> Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file >>> /home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms: >>> Failed to open file '/home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms': No >>> such >>> file or directory >>> Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. >>> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":1.0" already has a window >>> manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window >>> manager. >>> Initializing gnome-mount extension >>> seahorse nautilus module initialized >>> >>> Does anybody know how to fix this? >>> >>> The other issue is that this method requires me to have already logged >>> in as >>> myself using the dumb terminal. It would be useful to be able to >>> access the >>> default login desktop screen which appear if I plug in a screen >>> directly. >>> How do I do that? >>> >>> Is there an idiot's guide to this sort of thing? >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnome-list mailing list >>> gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnome-list mailing list >>> gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list >>> >> > > -- Regards. 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