Re: Remote login

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Sorry, I did not see the original email. I'm top-posting because most of what I have to say relates to the OP. I've used vnc successfully numerous times, but not in quite awhile; in a work environment simple ssh terminals are used most often, and at home I've switched to running VMs.

First off, from the original post, I'm not sure that the server has been properly set up to run X (and hence Gnome.) "could not find XKB extension": XKB is the keyboard and is required in any practical configuration.

Have you ever connected to a graphical UI directly on this box to verify that it is set up to run a GUI?

Next, I've usually set /etc/vncserver (as root) to automatically start up the required user sessions. You appear to be running vncserver as a regular user. I suppose that works but I have no experience running it that way.

Finally, if the server is properly configured and you want to run a GUI, vnc is the right way to go in my opinion. Remote X (cygwin) sends individual windowing commands over the wire and will hence be considerably slower than vnc.

The proper way to initialize vnc is to log in via an ssh terminal to start your GUI session. Then you log out and back in via vnc, which should attach directly to your GUI session.

On 2/13/2010 2:44 PM, David Harel wrote:


Duncan Garland wrote:
Hi,

No replies in two weeks. Was it a stupid question? Is this the wrong
list?
Not a stupid question at all.
Am I completely on the wrong track trying to use a vnc viewer to remotely
view a gnome session?
I would not use VNC here even though it is possible. Typically I would
use text only interface using ssh (putty.exe will do).
In addition you can install cygwin: http://x.cygwin.com/ and run X11
apps but I never tried it using ssh session.
I'll dig some more, but I think I must be googling the wrong keywords
because I didn't get anywhere last time.

All the best.

Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Duncan Garland
Sent: 30 January 2010 16:45
To: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Remote login


Hi,

I'm trying login to a Debian Lenny box from a Window XP box. I've got
dumb
terminal acess working properly, but I'd like to be able to access my
desktop as well.

I've installed vnc4server on the Debian, and tightvncviewer on the
Windows
box. If I run vnc4server -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 24 on the Debian,
login
in via tightvncviewer and type gnome-session, it works after a fashion.

The Desktop comes up, and I can access items such as the wastebasket.
However, I can't access the top menu with Applications, Places and
System on
it. It's frozen.

I'm sure this must be easy to correct, but I don't normally get
involved in
this sort of thing and I don't really understand the terminology.
There are
quite a few error messages on startup:

duncan@debian1:~$ gnome-session
SESSION_MANAGER=local/debian1:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4085
** Message: another SSH agent is running at:
/tmp/ssh-fwxDXn3909/agent.3909

** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: numlock: XkbQueryExtension
returned an error

** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: Neither XKeyboard not
Xfree86's
keyboard extensions are available,
no way to support keyboard autorepeat rate settings

** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: Unable to start
a11y_keyboard
manager: XKB functionality is disabled.

** (gnome-settings-daemon:4092): WARNING **: Failed to open file
'/etc/gnome/config/General.ad': No such file or directory
Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file
/home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms:
Failed to open file '/home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms': No
such
file or directory
Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension.
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":1.0" already has a window
manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window
manager.
Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file
/home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms:
Failed to open file '/home/duncan/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms': No
such
file or directory
Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension.
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":1.0" already has a window
manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window
manager.
Initializing gnome-mount extension
seahorse nautilus module initialized

Does anybody know how to fix this?

The other issue is that this method requires me to have already logged
in as
myself using the dumb terminal. It would be useful to be able to
access the
default login desktop screen which appear if I plug in a screen directly.
How do I do that?

Is there an idiot's guide to this sort of thing?

Many thanks

Duncan

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