First, thanks for your opinion.
Em Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:56:53 +0200
Olav Vitters <olav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:24:27AM +0100, Luis Matos
wrote:
I made examples of use cases:
- you can have different applications with different
functionality, but
Gnome-panel (clock applet) already shows data from
Evolution (tasks,
etc.. actually from evolution-data-server).
true ... but not enough. If you use other task manager,
such as GTG ... you have nothing.
An email is totally different from a Tomboy note. I
don't see how
storing it in one thing will automatically result in
applications
suddenly showing data from other applications. Further,
believe it is
already possible.
imagine a mail storage backend with mail management.
Having events associated with some storage types. New
mail, for example.
i think an example for this is evolution VS (tasks,
contacts, dates)[0],
that uses the same data source.
As it is stored in evolution-data-server. Meaning: app
specifically
stores one thing there.
yep
so you can open a small and specialized app to write a
task, but have a
big app that shows you the all things.
ex: tomboy notes' applet VS evolution to write a note.
Evolution could just as well link to some generic note
storing thing.
Important bit is that to edit this you need an UI. So it
needs work
anyway. Plus, evolution-data-server is optimized for the
type of data it
stores. Saying 'couchdb' seems a bit easy.
you could make some data-source specifications that could
provide applications some methods to change the data.
ofcourse ui's have to come together.
Imagine, if i like evolution to manage mail, i can not
like it to write
notes, but i would like to see them IN evolution.
Seeing notes in Evolution would require an UI which
shows you that.
No, evolution already has a note taking ui.
Where those notes are stored is not so important.
Sharing data between
applications seems what you're after. In that case each
specific type of
application should define some common storage method.
that is what we have ... everyone defines its storage
method. So no one uses other one's storage.
If we had a common storage method, then, all apps could
use that storage if it is present.
For example, tomboy could use, i think, sqlite, but if the
new storage is present, the new storage is used.
So mail,etc in evolution-data-server. Maybe notes in
that as well, or
something different. However, they don't all have to use
the same
method, as long as it is shared per type of info
(mail/notes/etc).
maybe it can be a method.
i take the evolution data-base, but gnome could adopt
other, specialized
DB, that evolution and other could use.
basically, my point is that i have the same data in
diferent places and
not related.
Anyway, not trying to stop you.. just pointing out that
in practice it
isn't needed. If you want to work on this, go ahead.
thanks for your support ... i think this is something that
could be useful. Imagine tracker, that now all search
engines can use to search for something. It is the same
for storage.
Wonder how e.g. even stickynotes + gnotes + tomboy + etc
would share
their data, this as stickynotes doesn't support the
layout options
tomboy allows. Likely gnote+tomboy share their data
(clones), not sure.
maybe we could have some kind of api/data-exchange rules
that could work this around.
stickynotes does not support layout, so we can provide it
text without layout. or add layout to sticky notes. or
just provide other note subsystem. Tomboy notes are
different in purpose than sticky notes.
all kinds of problems would appear, some world conquest
theory would come up and, in the end ... some would be
defeated and other would rise from the dead.
Just kidding!
--
Regards,
Olav
Luis F. C. Matos
Departamento de Engenharia Mecânica
Universidade de Aveiro
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