Having upgraded to Ximian Desktop 2 on Redhat 7.3 a few months ago, my biggest complaint is that Gnome is suddenly very slow on remote X displays (e.g. LTSP). When starting up various Gnome 2 apps via command line, they display a warning to effect of "RENDER missing" (is this a clue?). Everything works fine (modulo minor problems I've mentioned separately) other than being frustratingly slow compared to: a) the console and b) Gnome 1.4 For example, switching desktops takes over a second as each window is visibly redrawn. Dragging a window leaves partially drawn ghosts all over the screen for several seconds. Switching windows with Alt-tab takes almost a second as the new top Window is slowly redrawn. The network is a 100BaseT full duplex switching hub (which was plenty fast for Gnome 1.4). I have several theories: a) I need a more recent X server. The LTSP terminals are running XFree86 3.3.6 (ThinkNic and Cyrix MediaGX), and 4.0 (P200 with ATI Mach64). I have a RH7.2 with XF4.1 which I will try tonight. This is understandable, but frustrating since there are no video drivers beyond XFree86-3.3.6 for two of my terminals. One of them I can disable onboard video and put in a cheap 2D PCI video card. The other I'll have to pitch. b) The gnome developers don't care about remote X performance anymore. This would be a shame since robust multiuser support is a big selling point of Linux. LTSP allows me to provide 4 Mozilla/OpenOffice workstations for less than the price of 1 Windoze workstation with better performance and using recycled computers that would otherwise go in landfills. (Until the recent Gnome 2 upgrade, that is. Now everyone fights over the console.) c) I need a more recent version of Gnome. What is the best way to upgrade? BTW, this problem has no dependency on the LTSP project other than the version of XFree86 that is running. The situation is exactly equivalent to running a remote X session from another Linux machine (and I have verified this). LTSP simply provides a framework for booting diskless workstations and setting up NFS mounts for filesystems. Two of my LTSP terminals have disks which I can boot from for testing various things. -- Stuart D. Gathman <stuart@xxxxxxxx> Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154 "[Microsoft] products are even less buggy than others, in terms of per capita usage." - Steve Balmer, Microsoft Corporation _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list