please separate out games too. the more that's installed on a system, the less stable it is, the more vulnerable it is to attack, and the more pita it is when it's time to upgrade and some part about which you don't give a <bleep> fails. randy, a freebsd user _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list