Re: Slow write times to gluster disk

[Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Pranith,

Thanks for the tip.  We now have the gluster volume mounted under /home.  What tests do you recommend we run?

Thanks

Pat

On 05/17/2017 05:01 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Pranith,

Sorry for the delay.  I never saw received your reply (but I did receive Ben Turner's follow-up to your reply).  So we tried to create a gluster volume under /home using different variations of

gluster volume create test-volume mseas-data2:/home/gbrick_test_1 mseas-data2:/home/gbrick_test_2 transport tcp

However we keep getting errors of the form

Wrong brick type: transport, use <HOSTNAME>:<export-dir-abs-path>

Any thoughts on what we're doing wrong?

You should give transport tcp at the beginning I think. Anyways, transport tcp is the default, so no need to specify so remove those two words from the CLI.

Also do you have a list of the test we should be running once we get this volume created?  Given the time-zone difference it might help if we can run a small battery of tests and post the results rather than test-post-new test-post... .

This is the first time I am doing performance analysis on users as far as I remember. In our team there are separate engineers who do these tests. Ben who replied earlier is one such engineer.

Ben,

    Have any suggestions?

 

Thanks

Pat

On 05/11/2017 12:06 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Pranith,

The /home partition is mounted as ext4
/home              ext4    defaults,usrquota,grpquota      1 2

The brick partitions are mounted ax xfs
/mnt/brick1  xfs defaults        0 0
/mnt/brick2  xfs defaults        0 0

Will this cause a problem with creating a volume under /home?

I don't think the bottleneck is disk. You can do the same tests you did on your new volume to confirm?

 

Pat

On 05/11/2017 11:32 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Pranith,

Unfortunately, we don't have similar hardware for a small scale test.  All we have is our production hardware.

You said something about /home partition which has lesser disks, we can create plain distribute volume inside one of those directories. After we are done, we can remove the setup. What do you say?
 

Pat

On 05/11/2017 07:05 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Pranith,

Since we are mounting the partitions as the bricks, I tried the dd test writing to <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>. The results without oflag=sync were 1.6 Gb/s (faster than gluster but not as fast as I was expecting given the 1.2 Gb/s to the no-gluster area w/ fewer disks).

Okay, then 1.6Gb/s is what we need to target for, considering your volume is just distribute. Is there any way you can do tests on similar hardware but at a small scale? Just so we can run the workload to learn more about the bottlenecks in the system? We can probably try to get the speed to 1.2Gb/s on your /home partition you were telling me yesterday. Let me know if that is something you are okay to do.

 

Pat

On 05/10/2017 01:27 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Pranith,

Not entirely sure (this isn't my area of expertise).  I'll run your answer by some other people who are more familiar with this.

I am also uncertain about how to interpret the results when we also add the dd tests writing to the /home area (no gluster, still on the same machine)

• dd test without oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
  
• gluster w/ fuse mount : 570 Mb/s
• gluster w/ nfs mount:  390 Mb/s
• nfs (no gluster):  1.2 Gb/s
• dd test with oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
• gluster w/ fuse mount:  5 Mb/s
• gluster w/ nfs mount:  200 Mb/s
• nfs (no gluster): 20 Mb/s
  

Given that the non-gluster area is a RAID-6 of 4 disks while each brick of the gluster area is a RAID-6 of 32 disks, I would naively expect the writes to the gluster area to be roughly 8x faster than to the non-gluster.

I think a better test is to try and write to a file using nfs without any gluster to a location that is not inside the brick but someother location that is on same disk(s). If you are mounting the partition as the brick, then we can write to a file inside .glusterfs directory, something like <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>.

I still think we have a speed issue, I can't tell if fuse vs nfs is part of the problem.

I got interested in the post because I read that fuse speed is lesser than nfs speed which is counter-intuitive to my understanding. So wanted clarifications. Now that I got my clarifications where fuse outperformed nfs without sync, we can resume testing as described above and try to find what it is. Based on your email-id I am guessing you are from Boston and I am from Bangalore so if you are okay with doing this debugging for multiple days because of timezones, I will be happy to help. Please be a bit patient with me, I am under a release crunch but I am very curious with the problem you posted.

  Was there anything useful in the profiles?

Unfortunately profiles didn't help me much, I think we are collecting the profiles from an active volume, so it has a lot of information that is not pertaining to dd so it is difficult to find the contributions of dd. So I went through your post again and found something I didn't pay much attention to earlier i.e. oflag=sync, so did my own tests on my setup with FUSE so sent that reply.
 

Pat

On 05/10/2017 12:15 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

Okay good. At least this validates my doubts. Handling O_SYNC in gluster NFS and fuse is a bit different.

When application opens a file with O_SYNC on fuse mount then each write syscall has to be written to disk as part of the syscall where as in case of NFS, there is no concept of open. NFS performs write though a handle saying it needs to be a synchronous write, so write() syscall is performed first then it performs fsync(). so an write on an fd with O_SYNC becomes write+fsync. I am suspecting that when multiple threads do this write+fsync() operation on the same file, multiple writes are batched together to be written do disk so the throughput on the disk is increasing is my guess.

Does it answer your doubts?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Without the oflag=sync and only a single test of each, the FUSE is going faster than NFS:

FUSE:
mseas-data2(dri_nascar)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096 bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt conv=sync
4096+0 records in
4096+0 records out
4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 7.46961 s, 575 MB/s


NFS
mseas-data2(HYCOM)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096 bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt conv=sync
4096+0 records in
4096+0 records out
4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 11.4264 s, 376 MB/s

On 05/10/2017 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

Could you let me know the speed without oflag=sync on both the mounts? No need to collect profiles.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Here is what I see now:

[root@mseas-data2 ~]# gluster volume info
 
Volume Name: data-volume
Type: Distribute
Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18
Status: Started
Number of Bricks: 2
Transport-type: tcp
Bricks:
Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1
Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2
Options Reconfigured:
diagnostics.count-fop-hits: on
diagnostics.latency-measurement: on
nfs.exports-auth-enable: on
diagnostics.brick-sys-log-level: WARNING
performance.readdir-ahead: on
nfs.disable: on
nfs.export-volumes: off

On 05/10/2017 11:44 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:

Is this the volume info you have?

>     [root at mseas-data2 ~]# gluster volume info
>
>     Volume Name: data-volume
>     Type: Distribute
>     Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18
>     Status: Started
>     Number of Bricks: 2
>     Transport-type: tcp
>     Bricks:
>     Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1
>     Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2
>     Options Reconfigured:
>     performance.readdir-ahead: on
>     nfs.disable: on
>     nfs.export-volumes: off

​I copied this from old thread from 2016. This is distribute volume. Did you change any of the options in between?

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pranith

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pranith

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pranith

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pranith

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pranith

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Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley@xxxxxxx
Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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