Re: Initial sync

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On 10/30/2014 07:23 PM, Andreas Hollaus wrote:
Hi,

Thanks! Seems like an interesting document. Although I've read blogs about how
extended attributes are used as a change log, this seams like a more comprehensive
document.

I won't write directly to any brick. That's the reason I first have to create a
volume which consists of only one brick, until the other server is available, and
then add that second brick. I don't want to delay the file system clients until the
second server is available, hence the reason for add-brick.

I guess that this procedure is only needed the first time the volume is configured,
right? If any of these bricks would fail later on, the change log would keep track of
all changes to the file system even though only one of the bricks is available(?).

Yes, if one one brick of a replica pair goes down, the other one keeps track of file modifications by the client, and would sync it back to the first one when it comes back up.

After a restart, volume settings stored in the configuration file would be accepted
even though not all servers were up and running yet at that time, wouldn't they?

glusterd running on all nodes ensures that the volume configurations stored on each node are in sync.

Speaking about configuration files. When are these copied to each server?
If I create a volume which consists of two bricks, I guess that those servers will
create the configuration files, independently of each other, from the information
sent from the client (gluster volume create...).

All volume config/management commands must be run from any of the servers that make up the volume and not the client (unless both happen to be in the same machine). As mentioned above, when any of the volume commands are run on any one server, glusterd orchestrates the necessary action on all servers and keeps them in sync.
In case I later on add a brick, I guess that the settings have to be copied to the
new brick after they have been modified on the first one, right (or will they be
recreated on all servers from the information specified by the client, like in the
previous case)?

Will configuration files be copied in other situations as well, for instance in case
one of the servers which is part of the volume for some reason would be missing those
files? In my case, the root file system is recreated from an image at each reboot, so
everything created in /etc will be lost. Will GlusterFS settings be restored from the
other server automatically
No, it is expected that servers have persistent file-systems. There are ways to restore such bricks; see http://gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.4:_Brick_Restoration_-_Replace_Crashed_Server

-Ravi
or do I need to backup and restore those myself? Even
though the brick doesn't know that it is part of a volume in case it lose the
configuration files, both the other server(s) and the client(s) will probably
recognize it as being part of the volume. I therefore believe that such a
self-healing would actually be possible, even though it may not be implemented.


Regards
Andreas
On 10/30/14 05:21, Ravishankar N wrote:
On 10/28/2014 03:58 PM, Andreas Hollaus wrote:
Hi,

I'm curious about how GlusterFS manages to sync the bricks in the initial phase, when
the volume is created or
extended.

I first create a volume consisting of only one brick, which clients will start to
read and write.
After a while I add a second brick to the volume to create a replicated volume.

If this new brick is empty, I guess that files will be copied from the first brick to
get the bricks in sync, right?

However, if the second brick is not empty but rather contains a subset of the files
on the first brick I don't see
how GlusterFS will solve the problem of syncing the bricks.

I guess that all files which lack extended attributes could be removed in this
scenario, because they were created
when the disk was not part of a GlusterFS volume. However, in case the brick was used
in the volume previously,
for instance before that server restarted, there will be extended attributes for the
files on the second brick which
weren't updated during the downtime (when the volume consisted of only one brick).
There could be multiple
changes to the files during this time. In this case I don't understand how the
extended attributes could be used to
determine which of the bricks contains the most recent file.

Can anyone explain how this works? Is it only allowed to add empty bricks to a
volume?

It is allowed to add only empty bricks to the volume. Writing directly to bricks is
not supported. One needs to access the volume only from a mount point or using
libgfapi.
After adding a brick to increase the distribute count, you need to run the volume
rebalance command so that the some of the existing files are hashed (moved) to this
newly added brick.
After adding a brick to increase the replica count, you need to run the volume heal
full command to sync the files from the other replica into the newly added brick.
https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/blob/master/doc/features/afr-v1.md will give
you an idea of how the replicate translator uses xattrs to keep files in sync.

HTH,
Ravi

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