Re: Initial sync

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Hi,

Thanks! Seems like an interesting document. Although I've read blogs about how
extended attributes are used as a change log, this seams like a more comprehensive
document.

I won't write directly to any brick. That's the reason I first have to create a
volume which consists of only one brick, until the other server is available, and
then add that second brick. I don't want to delay the file system clients until the
second server is available, hence the reason for add-brick.

I guess that this procedure is only needed the first time the volume is configured,
right? If any of these bricks would fail later on, the change log would keep track of
all changes to the file system even though only one of the bricks is available(?).
After a restart, volume settings stored in the configuration file would be accepted
even though not all servers were up and running yet at that time, wouldn't they?

Speaking about configuration files. When are these copied to each server?
If I create a volume which consists of two bricks, I guess that those servers will
create the configuration files, independently of each other, from the information
sent from the client (gluster volume create...).
 
In case I later on add a brick, I guess that the settings have to be copied to the
new brick after they have been modified on the first one, right (or will they be
recreated on all servers from the information specified by the client, like in the
previous case)?

Will configuration files be copied in other situations as well, for instance in case
one of the servers which is part of the volume for some reason would be missing those
files? In my case, the root file system is recreated from an image at each reboot, so
everything created in /etc will be lost. Will GlusterFS settings be restored from the
other server automatically or do I need to backup and restore those myself? Even
though the brick doesn't know that it is part of a volume in case it lose the
configuration files, both the other server(s) and the client(s) will probably
recognize it as being part of the volume. I therefore believe that such a
self-healing would actually be possible, even though it may not be implemented.


Regards
Andreas
 

On 10/30/14 05:21, Ravishankar N wrote:
> On 10/28/2014 03:58 PM, Andreas Hollaus wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm curious about how GlusterFS manages to sync the bricks in the initial phase, when
>> the volume is created or
>> extended.
>>
>> I first create a volume consisting of only one brick, which clients will start to
>> read and write.
>> After a while I add a second brick to the volume to create a replicated volume.
>>
>> If this new brick is empty, I guess that files will be copied from the first brick to
>> get the bricks in sync, right?
>>
>> However, if the second brick is not empty but rather contains a subset of the files
>> on the first brick I don't see
>> how GlusterFS will solve the problem of syncing the bricks.
>>
>> I guess that all files which lack extended attributes could be removed in this
>> scenario, because they were created
>> when the disk was not part of a GlusterFS volume. However, in case the brick was used
>> in the volume previously,
>> for instance before that server restarted, there will be extended attributes for the
>> files on the second brick which
>> weren't updated during the downtime (when the volume consisted of only one brick).
>> There could be multiple
>> changes to the files during this time. In this case I don't understand how the
>> extended attributes could be used to
>> determine which of the bricks contains the most recent file.
>>
>> Can anyone explain how this works? Is it only allowed to add empty bricks to a
>> volume?
>>
>>  
> It is allowed to add only empty bricks to the volume. Writing directly to bricks is
> not supported. One needs to access the volume only from a mount point or using
> libgfapi.
> After adding a brick to increase the distribute count, you need to run the volume
> rebalance command so that the some of the existing files are hashed (moved) to this
> newly added brick.
> After adding a brick to increase the replica count, you need to run the volume heal
> full command to sync the files from the other replica into the newly added brick.
> https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/blob/master/doc/features/afr-v1.md will give
> you an idea of how the replicate translator uses xattrs to keep files in sync.
>
> HTH,
> Ravi

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