Hi, I have the install guide and the admin guide....nothing in either that I can see from the contents pages tells me how to create the first "server" ( I assume that is what I have to do?) Is there another doc Im missing? or a good URL for a howto on a redhat based machine? Also from what I can see the "free" version is cli only? and there is no virtual (vmware) appliance? regards Steven Jones Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE Victoria University, Wellington, NZ 0064 4 463 6272