Re: Google Summer of Code Application opens Feb 8th - Call For Mentors

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Hi Gluster folks,

Thank you for considering joining Outreachy! Answers inline below.

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Niels de Vos" <ndevos@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Amye Scavarda" <amye@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Marina Zhurakhinskaya" <marinaz@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Kaleb KEITHLEY" <kkeithle@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Gluster Devel"
> <gluster-devel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:06:08 AM
> Subject: Re:  Google Summer of Code Application opens Feb 8th - Call For Mentors
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 01:34:08PM -0800, Amye Scavarda wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Amye Scavarda <amye@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Niels de Vos <ndevos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 06:22:58AM -0800, Amye Scavarda wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Kaleb KEITHLEY <kkeithle@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 02/13/2016 08:37 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> > > >> > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Kaushal M <kshlmster@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:41 PM, André Bauer <abauer@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >>> Already asked myself why this not exists.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> so... +1 from me.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Regards
> > > >> > >>> André
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Am 04.02.2016 um 16:43 schrieb Niels de Vos:
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> How about a project to write a fuse client based on libgfapi
> > > >> > >>>> and
> > > >> > >>>> libfuse instead? That would reduce the need for our fuse-bridge
> > > >> > >>>> over time. libgfapi should be ready for this, Samba,
> > > >> > >>>> NFS-Ganesha
> > > >> > >>>> and others already use it heavily.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> +1 from me too. But we need a mentor for this. Neils would you be
> > > >> > >> a
> > > >> > >> willing mentor?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > If this is the only project idea which exists, the application
> > > >> > > organization for GSoC would be somewhat weak. Organizations are
> > > >> > > usually expected to come up with a number (more than one) of ideas
> > > >> > > which are also attached with (at least) one mentor. More at
> > > >> > > <https://flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/making-your-ideas-page/>
> > > (as a
> > > >> > > manner of guidance)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > How about a gfapi-based bash shell.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Kaleb
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > Gluster-devel mailing list
> > > >> > Gluster-devel@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > http://www.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Given as we have one project without a mentor, and the deadline is
> > > >> within three days of application, this seems like we should regroup
> > > >> about this next year.
> > > >> I have a different idea to help get Gluster more involved with student
> > > >> outreach.
> > > >>
> > > >> We're looking at doing Outreachy this next cycle, and the deadline for
> > > >> application for organizations is March 22nd.
> > > >> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
> > > >>
> > > >> Would any of these projects be good candidates for Outreachy?
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure what the knowledge level of Outreachy participants is. It
> > > > was difficult to find something quickly on the website, maybe you can
> > > > explain a little more about it?

They typically have intermediate level of knowledge, similar to strong applicants you would get for Google Summer of Code. Historically, about 50% of Outreachy participants have been students pursuing a CS degree, 30% recent graduates, and 20% people transitioning into technology (e.g. with the help of coding schools) or returning to a technology career after an extended time off (e.g. to stay home with children).

> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Niels
> > >
> > > Better resources are available on their wiki:
> > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy, particularly
> > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs.
> > > I know that Pranith was interested in this last year as well.
> > > - amye
> > >
> > >
> > > Adding Marina to this thread, who's one of the overall admins for
> > Outreachy to get more clarity.
> > 
> > Any questions, Niels, Kaleb?
> 
> Is there an estimate on how much time a mentor will need to spend on a
> project? If there is a page that explains the responsibilities of
> mentors, that would probably help too.

Here is the timeline from the perspective of mentorship. Gluster doesn't yet have funding for Outreachy confirmed, so at this point we are just exploring whether there would be interested mentors.

Between funding being confirmed and application deadline March 22: mentors need to help a few applicants to make initial contributions
March 22 to selection decisions announcement April 22: mentors continue to help active applicants with contributions and decide who to accept
May 23 - August 23: applicants work remotely while being guided by mentors

I'd say it requires a 5 hour per week commitment from a mentor between Gluster joining the program and August 23. Having co-mentors or a project team who can review patches and point people in the right direction would help spread the load.

Here is the information we currently have for mentors:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForMentors
https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InternshipTime

Thanks,
Marina

> 
> Thanks,
> Niels
> 
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