On November 27, 2014 8:13:01 AM PST, Jeff Darcy <jdarcy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > To be sure, maintaining external daemons such as etcd or consul >> > creates its own problems. I think the ideal might be to embed a >> > consensus protocol implementation (Paxos, Raft, or Viewstamped >> > Replication) directly into glusterd, so it's guaranteed to start up >> > and die exactly when those daemons do and be subject to the same >> > permission or resource limits. I'm not sure it's even more work >> > than managing either an external daemon or a management volume >(with >> > its own daemons). >> >> To solve the store consistency problem it may be enough to implement >> Raft (or any other consensus algorithm) but if we aspire to make >> acquiring data (among the servers) from the distributed store to >> scale, we would need a 'watch' functionality. IMO, it is easier to >> implement a key-value interface than a POSIX-y interface for the >> store. The end solution would be dangerously (sic) similar to >> consul/etcd/ZK. This bring us to whether we piggyback on reasonably >> mature solutions that provide the same functionality or build one >> ourselves. I am torn between the two. Which approach would be >> practical? Thoughts? MV was born while we were exploring a middle >> ground. > >I've thought quite a bit about what it would take to implement our own >embeddable consensus-protocol implementation. It's not something to be >undertaken lightly. The difficulty of managing etcd/consul/whatever >daemons is fairly well understood; it's not trivial, but a lot of what >we need is there already for other purposes (or done as part of NSR). >There are just a few "rough edges" left. What we don't know is the >difficulty of filling the gaps in the MV approach - e.g. self heal, >lack >of a "watch" function. Therefore, we should probably try to >characterize those gaps and estimate (as well as we can) the effort to >overcome them Then we can compare that to the effort required to >complete the external daemon approach, and see which one will get us to >our goal more quickly. ... and reliably. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Gluster-devel mailing list Gluster-devel@xxxxxxxxxxx http://supercolony.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel