Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins

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On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Jeff King wrote:

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 01:23:50PM -0700, Perry Wagle wrote:

But, my problem is not git<DASH> vs git<SPACE>, but the slap-dash way
upward compatibility was broken and the "water over the dam" slippery
slope rationalizations that refuse to consider reverting. "You" will do it again in the future since you are declaring success here. And "you"
have likely done it in the past 6 months.

I don't think Junio is declaring success. In fact, I think he has sent
several messages saying (paraphrasing of course):

I did not name anyone, and put "you" in quotes to try to not even imply I was pointing at one person. Several people have declared success, but Junio wasn't one of them. I think (?) that he was just the unwilling gunman. 8)

So please stop making specious claims that there are crazy
backwards-incompatibility bugs lurking throughout new versions of git.
If there are, then please find and name them. If not, then I think the
git community would welcome suggestions about how better to notify users
about the rare changes like this one.

I now have to TEST to find those crazy backwards-incompatibility bugs before I can upgrade us to 1.6.0. To test, I have to try to imagine what I and others were assuming about git. And this episode means that I can't make any assumptions about the sanity of any changes since March, which is the version I'm thinking of upgrading.

But note that THIS upward compatibility bug has been declared to not be a bug. Will any others receive the same stamp?

So please put on your engineer hat, and stop talking about "specious claims" and hurting feelings. Heck, I even got Linus himself to ask if us people were on drugs, and I didn't take it personally. At least I'm saying something that can be disputed, and not ad hominem like Linus. 8)

How to better notify them is to do it on a major release, like Git 2.0. THEN, they expect upward compatibility to break.

-- Perry

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