On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 08:10:17PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > And from a personal point of view, it is definitely useful for me, as > > someone who manages their own mail server, to heavily negatively score > > all email without DKIM, but I can't do that because vger doesn't add > > any. That's the only thing preventing me from doing that. > > There is a small subset of active git mailing list posters who send mail that > is not DKIM-signed, for example Jeff King: > > https://lore.kernel.org/git/20240813124550.GC968816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/raw Uh oh, now I feel singled out. ;) It's true that I use only SPF but not DKIM. FWIW, I haven't had a huge problem with deliverability. But if the world is ready to move on and I am one of the last dinosaurs holding things up, I'm OK to be told that I really ought to implement DKIM to participate in the list. > However, signing their messages with a DKIM signature from vger.kernel.org > will serve no purpose, unless we also rewrite the From: to match the > vger.kernel.org domain. The From: field would need to be something like: > > From: Jeff King via Git Mailing List <foo+somemagic+peff.peff.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > This is called "From-munging" and is not acceptable on any mailing list that > sends and receives patches, because this changes the Author of the patch. > > Thing is, this has nothing to do with vger, because if Jeff emails you > directly and you set a high negative score for messages without a DKIM > signature, you won't get his mail either. The fact that it traversed or didn't > traverse vger.kernel.org has no impact on that. Yep, agreed with all of that. -Peff
