Re: Heads up: GMail regularly marking list messages as spam

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On 2024-08-12 at 15:10:23, Mike Castle wrote:
> If you read the list via GMail, you may want to regularly check your
> Spam label for messages from the git list.
> 
> I'm not sure what's up with that.  A handful of real spam had made it
> through vger, but GMail seems to be hitting a fair number of false
> positives lately.
> 
> Sometimes it is just one message in a patch set.  Others, it is whole
> sets of patches.  I didn't check to see if there was anything in
> common across the messages.  Maybe if anyone has a large batch, they
> can check?
> 
> It would be interesting to see if this affects domain specific users
> as well (e.g., Google itself).

Gmail and Yahoo have both set up new requirements for senders[0].  This
requires that all senders have SPF and DKIM, and senders sending more
than 5000 messages per day have DMARC set up.  One-click unsubscribe in
RFC 8058 is also obligatory, as is TLS for sending messages.  These
changes came into effect in February 2024.

I don't believe vger uses DKIM (at least, it doesn't appear to add DKIM
headers) and doesn't support RFC 8058 one-click unsubscribe.  Perhaps
adding support for those, as well as any other relevant requirements,
would improve things.

[0] https://support.google.com/a/answer/81126?sjid=9729987135322685176-NC&visit_id=638590935924706038-3386441869&rd=1
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brian m. carlson (they/them or he/him)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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