On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:02:17AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Andreas Herrmann <aherrmann@xxxxxxx> writes: > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] configure.ac: Don't overwrite NO_EXPAT option > > Downcase "D" in "Don't" (cf. "git log --oneline --no-merges > --since=2.months"), please. Oops, ok. > > Even if 'configure --with-expat=no' was run, expat support is used, > > because library detection overwrites it. Avoid this overwrite. > > As I suspect that "configure" is not used a part of any experienced > Git developers' daily development cycle, it is unfortunately very > understandable how this left unnoticed for so long, ever since > 424adc50 (autoconf: Move variables which we always set to > config.mak.in, 2006-08-08), if I am reading the patch correctly, as > a part of the very beginning of autoconf support. > > Thanks for spotting it, and the fix look straight-forward. > > > (I think, configure should obey what the user has specified.) > > Sure, but please rephrase this parenthesized sentence. I'll rephrase it. > * if you are unsure, and leaning to negative, say that below the > three-dash line. No need for (parentheses). > > * otherwise, lose the (parentheses), "I think", and in general be > more assertive. > > The latter is more preferrable. The sentence with "I think" is your > proposal to make it the project policy to make sure that ./configure > script honors what the user gave it. If other developers disagree > with the policy you propose there, they will object and give their > reason during their reviews. If we adopt it as the project policy, > which I personally think is very sensible, it is good to have it > stated not as a mere personal opinion of the author of a commit, but > more as a general rule. > > Having said all that, I have some further observation. > > The NO_EXPAT support does not look *so* special. It is split into > two parts: > > * Use AC_ARG_WITH(expat) to handle "--with-expat" > > * AC_CHECK_LIB([expat]) to auto-detect NO_EXPAT > > Aren't there other symbols that share the same pattern? I'll have a look at this. > For example, how well do NO_CURL or NO_ICONV (which I picked because > AC_ARG_WITH(curl) comes before and AC_ARG_WITH(iconv) comes after > AC_ARG_WITH(expat)) work? Do they share the same issue? > A quick "git grep AC_ARG_WITH" finds openssl, libpcre*, and tcltk > also share the same pattern, in addition to curl and iconv. I may > be misreading the script but USE_LIBPCRE2 support looks OK. > NO_OPENSSL looks iffy, though not wrong per-se. SHA1_Init is probed > in libcrypto and in libssl regardless of the value of NO_OPENSSL. > > I do not think it is a good idea to address the same issue for some > of these other symbols, in addition to expat, in a single patch. > Let's have people review the current patch for NO_EXPAT first, and > leave the other symbols for possible follow-up patches. I agree, separate patches is the preferred way if there is more to fix. > Thanks. Thanks for your comments. -- Regards, Andreas SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Martje Boudien Moerman (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)