On Fri, Sep 24 2021, Ramsay Jones wrote:
> On 23/09/2021 18:39, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 02:07:16AM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>>
>>>> We ensure that the recursive dependencies are correct by depending on
>>>> the *.o file, which in turn will have correct dependencies by either
>>>> depending on all header files, or under
>>>> "COMPUTE_HEADER_DEPENDENCIES=yes" the headers it needs.
>>>>
>>>> This means that a plain "make sparse" is much slower, as we'll now
>>>> need to make the *.o files just to create the *.sp files, but
>>>> incrementally creating the *.sp files is *much* faster and less
>>>> verbose, it thus becomes viable to run "sparse" along with "all" as
>>>> e.g. "git rebase --exec 'make all sparse'".
>>>
>>> OK. I think this solves the dependency issues sufficiently. It is a
>>> tradeoff that you must do the normal build in order to do the sparse
>>> check now. That is certainly fine for my workflow (I am building Git all
>>> the time, and only occasionally run "make sparse"). I don't know if
>>> others would like it less (e.g., if Ramsay is frequently running sparse
>>> checks without having just built).
>>>
>>> (I'd say "I do not care that much either way", but then I do not care
>>> all that much either way about incremental sparse checks either, so I'm
>>> not sure my opinion really matters).
>>
>> My build procedure runs "make sparse" before the primary build,
>> simply because the former tends to be much faster to fail when there
>> is an issue in the code. I can understand that depending on .o is a
>> cheap way to piggyback on the dependencies it has, but my latency
>> will get much slower if this goes in _and_ I keep trying to pick up
>> potentially problematic patches from the list.
>
>
> I always run 'make sparse -k >sp-out 2>&1' after having done the main
> build, so that is not an issue for me. Note that I always send all
> output from each build step (for master, next and seen) to a series of
> (branch keyed) files, so that I can easily diff from branch to branch.
> Also, as above, I use '-k' on the 'sparse' and 'hdr-check' targets to
> collect all errors/warnings in one go.
>
> So, this evening, with the v2 version of Ævar's patch having landed in
> the 'seen' branch, we see this (abridged) diff between next and seen:
>
> $ diff nsp-out ssp-out
> 77a78
> > SP hook.c
> 289a291
> > SP builtin/hook.c
> 417a420
> > SP t/helper/test-reftable.c
> 449a453,478
> > SP reftable/basics.c
> ...
> > SP reftable/tree_test.c
> 452a482,483
> > CC contrib/scalar/scalar.o
> > SP contrib/scalar/scalar.c
> $
>
> So, this almost looks normal, except for the 'CC' line! Having discovered
> some leftover cruft from old builds yesterday:
>
> $ git ls-files | grep contrib/scalar
> contrib/scalar/.gitignore
> contrib/scalar/Makefile
> contrib/scalar/scalar.c
> contrib/scalar/scalar.txt
> contrib/scalar/t/Makefile
> contrib/scalar/t/t9099-scalar.sh
> $ ls contrib/scalar
> Makefile scalar.c scalar.o scalar.sp scalar.txt t/
> $ rm contrib/scalar/scalar.{o,sp}
> $ make
> SUBDIR git-gui
> SUBDIR gitk-git
> SUBDIR templates
> $ make sparse
> CC contrib/scalar/scalar.o
> SP contrib/scalar/scalar.c
> $
>
> Hmm, interesting, but not relevant here. So, lets play a bit:
>
> $ make sparse
> $ make git.sp
> $ make git.sp
> $ touch git.sp
> $ make git.sp
> $ touch git.c
> $ make git.sp
> CC git.o
> SP git.c
> $ touch git.o
> $ make git.sp
> SP git.c
> $
>
> Hmm, so I think it is working as designed. However, I find it to be
> more than a little irritating (curmudgeon alert!).
Specifically that there's now "SP" lines in the output, that *.sp files
are created at all, that they're created where they are, or some
combination of those thigs?
> Note there are currently no sparse warnings in any of the branches
> I build (mainly because Junio patches them up before they hit the
> git.kernel.org repo - I am not complaining! ;) ). However, should
> any warnings/errors appear (from my own development, say), then I
> would make extensive use of 'make <file>.sp' while fixing the
> problem. Prior to this patch series, 'make <file>.sp' would _always_
> run sparse over the file - it would not depend on the 'mtime' or
> existence of any other file, or run the compiler (and wouldn't leave
> any 'droppings' either). I liked that! :D
>
> So, I still don't quite get where the 'savings' come from - maybe it
> is just me, but I don't think this improves any workflow (well not
> mine anyway). I just don't get it. :(
The point is that you can now instead of:
make -jN all
Just do:
make -jN all sparse
And do those checks all the time, whether it's in your your normal
edit/compile/test cycle, or via "git rebase --exec", and not have it
take much longer than not having "sparse" there.
So I think you won't have any reason to run "make <file>.sp" anymore.
Why not just run "make all sparse"?
As long as you have any outstanding errors in a <file>.sp" you'll keep
getting just that relevant output, and once you fix the issue the
dependency is satisified.
Just like if you've got a compile error in say usage.c now you've got no
reason to stop running "make all" and start running "make usage.o", the
dependency graph makes it so that you'll get the right output via "make
all", and the added time from running the more general target is
trivial.
