On 23/09/2021 18:39, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> writes: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 02:07:16AM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >>> We ensure that the recursive dependencies are correct by depending on >>> the *.o file, which in turn will have correct dependencies by either >>> depending on all header files, or under >>> "COMPUTE_HEADER_DEPENDENCIES=yes" the headers it needs. >>> >>> This means that a plain "make sparse" is much slower, as we'll now >>> need to make the *.o files just to create the *.sp files, but >>> incrementally creating the *.sp files is *much* faster and less >>> verbose, it thus becomes viable to run "sparse" along with "all" as >>> e.g. "git rebase --exec 'make all sparse'". >> >> OK. I think this solves the dependency issues sufficiently. It is a >> tradeoff that you must do the normal build in order to do the sparse >> check now. That is certainly fine for my workflow (I am building Git all >> the time, and only occasionally run "make sparse"). I don't know if >> others would like it less (e.g., if Ramsay is frequently running sparse >> checks without having just built). >> >> (I'd say "I do not care that much either way", but then I do not care >> all that much either way about incremental sparse checks either, so I'm >> not sure my opinion really matters). > > My build procedure runs "make sparse" before the primary build, > simply because the former tends to be much faster to fail when there > is an issue in the code. I can understand that depending on .o is a > cheap way to piggyback on the dependencies it has, but my latency > will get much slower if this goes in _and_ I keep trying to pick up > potentially problematic patches from the list. I always run 'make sparse -k >sp-out 2>&1' after having done the main build, so that is not an issue for me. Note that I always send all output from each build step (for master, next and seen) to a series of (branch keyed) files, so that I can easily diff from branch to branch. Also, as above, I use '-k' on the 'sparse' and 'hdr-check' targets to collect all errors/warnings in one go. So, this evening, with the v2 version of Ævar's patch having landed in the 'seen' branch, we see this (abridged) diff between next and seen: $ diff nsp-out ssp-out 77a78 > SP hook.c 289a291 > SP builtin/hook.c 417a420 > SP t/helper/test-reftable.c 449a453,478 > SP reftable/basics.c ... > SP reftable/tree_test.c 452a482,483 > CC contrib/scalar/scalar.o > SP contrib/scalar/scalar.c $ So, this almost looks normal, except for the 'CC' line! Having discovered some leftover cruft from old builds yesterday: $ git ls-files | grep contrib/scalar contrib/scalar/.gitignore contrib/scalar/Makefile contrib/scalar/scalar.c contrib/scalar/scalar.txt contrib/scalar/t/Makefile contrib/scalar/t/t9099-scalar.sh $ ls contrib/scalar Makefile scalar.c scalar.o scalar.sp scalar.txt t/ $ rm contrib/scalar/scalar.{o,sp} $ make SUBDIR git-gui SUBDIR gitk-git SUBDIR templates $ make sparse CC contrib/scalar/scalar.o SP contrib/scalar/scalar.c $ Hmm, interesting, but not relevant here. So, lets play a bit: $ make sparse $ make git.sp $ make git.sp $ touch git.sp $ make git.sp $ touch git.c $ make git.sp CC git.o SP git.c $ touch git.o $ make git.sp SP git.c $ Hmm, so I think it is working as designed. However, I find it to be more than a little irritating (curmudgeon alert!). Note there are currently no sparse warnings in any of the branches I build (mainly because Junio patches them up before they hit the git.kernel.org repo - I am not complaining! ;) ). However, should any warnings/errors appear (from my own development, say), then I would make extensive use of 'make <file>.sp' while fixing the problem. Prior to this patch series, 'make <file>.sp' would _always_ run sparse over the file - it would not depend on the 'mtime' or existence of any other file, or run the compiler (and wouldn't leave any 'droppings' either). I liked that! :D So, I still don't quite get where the 'savings' come from - maybe it is just me, but I don't think this improves any workflow (well not mine anyway). I just don't get it. :( ATB, Ramsay Jones