Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
El 29/8/2007, a las 4:23, Johannes Schindelin escribió:
I acknowledged that.
But it does not change the _meaning_ of Andreas' criticism. They took a
perfectly sane system, and turned it into a mess.
I don't think it's productive to enter into arguments about whether a
particular operating system is a "monstrosity", "sane" or "a mess";
that's why I limited my comment to a correction of a factual
misstatement by Andreas and left the opinion part unchallenged. We could
have avoided this thread if instead of "doesn't even have a case
sensitive filesystem", he'd started his flame with "defaults to a using
a case-insensitive filesystem".
Yes, you _can_ change the setting. No, most don't. Yes, the effect
is...
you guessed it: the same as if they did not allow case sensitivity at
all.
While I agree that most just accept the default, your argument here and
in your previous email is spurious; it amounts to saying "A and B is
offered, but because A is the default it is the same as if B were not
supported at all", which isn't valid logic. If you limited your argument
to criticizing case-insensitive filesystems then I would have to agree
with you; I am not a fan of them. Likewise, if you said that the default
has undesirable consequences I would also concur. It's your attempt to
extend your claim to an argument for equivalence that I can't buy.
My original comment was in error. I was unaware that Apple shipped
different filesystems and that there was actually a choice. Me having
sat by a friend who did his installation didn't realize I had the option
of using a case-sensitive filesystem, so I assumed it wasn't there, which
only goes to show that assumption indeed is the mother of all fuckups. Not
wanting a pointless discussion in which everyone agrees in spirit but
nitpicks about factual details, I didn't respond to any of the posts.
Since it seems we all agree that case-insensitive, case-reporting file-
systems are disgusting and it's now thoroughly proven that Apple does
indeed ship a proper filesystem with its OS X releases, can we please
drop this now and move on to trying to improve things? I'll take
universal silence on the subject as "good idea, let's do that"
and we have to suffer.
but, don't you think you're exaggerating a bit here? How much
"suffering" has this really caused you?
Plenty enough, I should imagine. As David Kastrup mentioned, Dscho
does extensive work on MSYS/MingW while not using it himself.
Besides that, there are all these timeconsuming threads that some
ignorant dumbass (in this case me) turn into silly pie-fights with
some uninformed remark that is overly tainted by personal opinion.
My apologies. I shall do my research better in the future.
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Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@xxxxxx
OP5 AB www.op5.se
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