El 29/8/2007, a las 4:23, Johannes Schindelin escribió:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
El 28/8/2007, a las 22:45, Johannes Schindelin escribi?:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
Personally, I don't like HFS+ much at all, but your statement that
Mac OS X "doesn't even have a case sensitive filesystem" is false.
It is right that they support it. But since the _default_ is case
insensitive (but only as long as it is not _reporting_ file
names), it
is _as bad_ as "doesn't even have a case sensitive filesystem". No
sophistry helps here.
I don't think my correction qualifies as "sophistry" by any
reasonable
definition of the word. Andreas claimed that Apple had turned "a
perfectly decent unix-clone such as FreeBSD into some defect
monstrosity
that doesn't even have a case sensitive filesystem"; I merely
sought to
correct his misstatement.
I acknowledged that.
But it does not change the _meaning_ of Andreas' criticism. They
took a
perfectly sane system, and turned it into a mess.
I don't think it's productive to enter into arguments about whether a
particular operating system is a "monstrosity", "sane" or "a mess";
that's why I limited my comment to a correction of a factual
misstatement by Andreas and left the opinion part unchallenged. We
could have avoided this thread if instead of "doesn't even have a
case sensitive filesystem", he'd started his flame with "defaults to
a using a case-insensitive filesystem".
Yes, you _can_ change the setting. No, most don't. Yes, the
effect is...
you guessed it: the same as if they did not allow case sensitivity
at all.
While I agree that most just accept the default, your argument here
and in your previous email is spurious; it amounts to saying "A and B
is offered, but because A is the default it is the same as if B were
not supported at all", which isn't valid logic. If you limited your
argument to criticizing case-insensitive filesystems then I would
have to agree with you; I am not a fan of them. Likewise, if you said
that the default has undesirable consequences I would also concur.
It's your attempt to extend your claim to an argument for equivalence
that I can't buy.
Plenty of people have this setup
Agreed...
and we have to suffer.
but, don't you think you're exaggerating a bit here? How much
"suffering" has this really caused you? I gather that you're not even
a user of that operating system; I am (have been since the first
developer previews), have always accepted the default filesystem
choice, don't even like the filesystem (have ranted repeatedly about
its flakiness on my weblog), but I think I've run into case-
insensitivity issues two times. If you want to talk about "suffering"
then ask me about HFS+ data integrity.
Cheers,
Wincent
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