Hi Junio, On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@xxxxxx> writes: > > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > >> I am not saying it is a legitimate need. I just wanted to make it > >> clear that we deliberately chose not to grant that wish in the > >> message. An advice flag in this context means that the users can > >> choose to let their distro and sysadm to flip the default silently, > >> which is much worse than having to see the message every time they > >> start a new repository with "git init". > > > > The distribution already can add patches, so this objection is a red > > herring. The sysadm can pick a different value for `init.defaultBranch` > > and dictate to the user silently what initial branch name to use, so that > > is also a red herring. > > The "setting init.defaultBranch is the only way to squelch" approach > means the ~/.gitconfig will have the settings soon after the user > starts using Git and /etc/gitconfig will not allow administrators to > force their will over what the user decides to use. Distros adding > patches to strip configurability by setting init.defaultBranch in > user's ~/.gitconfig? Is that the kind of possibilities worth > discussing? > > So, no, your counter-argument above is nothing but a red-herring. > > If you want a counter-argument, please explain why "I am fine to see > the default flipped to whatever the tool picks and having no control > over when the flipping happens" can be a sensible choice for users > with what kind of workflows. The only folks I can think of who > would be fine with that are (1) those who do not create the second > branch in the repository and will stay on the primary branch > forever, and (2) those who immediately rename the branch to what > they want after "git init". For other folks, such a choice is a > disaster waiting to happen, and it just feels irresponsible to offer > such a choice, at least to me. I'll make this short. I talked to a couple Git users whether they'd be fine if `git init` used a different branch name by default, and everybody I asked said essentially "yeah, whatever, I don't really care". For that reason, Git for Windows' installer has that option, and will keep offering it. Ciao, Dscho
