On 8/14/20 10:18 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
Hi Peff,
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020, Jeff King wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:04:28AM -0400, Taylor Blau wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:57:19AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
Over the years some more programs have become builtins, but nobody
updated this MSVC-specific section of the file (which specifically says
that it should not include builtins). Let's bring it up to date.
Signed-off-by: Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx>
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Given that nobody has mentioned this, it makes me wonder if anybody is
even using this part of the Makefile at all these days. Or maybe having
extra lines here isn't a problem (though it's also missing some entries,
like one for git-bugreport).
If having extra entries didn't cause a problem, I would suspect that it
was just that. But that missing entries *also* doesn't cause a problem,
I'd suspect that this section of the Makefile just isn't being used.
Of course, I'm not using it since I'm not on Windows, but maybe dscho or
Stolee would know if there are legitimate uses. Of course, if there
aren't, I'm favor of getting rid of this section entirely.
I cc'd Jeff Hostetler, who added it. :)
I'm also pretty not-knowledgeable about Windows, but I think that
anybody using MSVC would do so through Visual Studio these days. And
that's being covered with recent cmake stuff. Or maybe I'm just
clueless. We'll see.
We have a couple ways to build Git on Windows:
- the standard way, in a Git for Windows SDK (which is a slightly modified
subset of MSYS2). This uses GCC and GNU make and all the things that you
might suspect given Git's origins on Linux.
- the Visual Studio way, after running `make vcxproj` in Git for Windows'
SDK. As part of the `vcxproj` target, the non-C parts of Git are
generated and committed.
- the "new" Visual Studio way, after running CMake. The non-C parts are
generated through CMake, which is nice because no Git for Windows SDK is
required to build this from start to finish.
- the Visual C way, as championed by Jeff (and which was a prerequisite to
working on the `vcxproj` target): in a Git for Windows SDK, use GNU make
but replace GCC by MSVC (via the command-line): `make MSVC=1`.
On Windows, I always use either "make" or "make MSVC=1" from a SDK
shell window to build and test. This lets me debug in either GDB or
Visual Studio directly against the EXE. (That is, without any of the
project complications in the debugger or the artificial commits created
for the .vcxproj files.) MSVC builds are built from source all the way
down (including third-party libraries) thanks to vcpkg.
However, I never install my "make MSVC=1" builds, so I don't care about
the PDBs being redistributed. As @dscho said, we added that thinking
that we would be able to do MSVC-based releases one day, but that ship
sank.
There were some very-early GVFS users who we (personally) gave MSVC-
based builds to help get stack traces via internal Watson channels,
but that is unnecessary now.
Jeff
While all four methods work, the only one that is regularly used with the
`make install` command is the first one.
The location you modified is in the `MSVC` part of `compat.mak.uname`,
i.e. in the Visual C part.
We originally had a tentative plan to eventually, maybe, build Git for
Windows using Visual C by default. However, it turned out that the
standard malloc in Visual C's runtime was tuned for other workloads than
Gits, and that nedmalloc performed better, and we originally could not get
nedmalloc to compile with a modern Visual C, so we stopped that effort.
That's why you still have support for `make MSVC=1 install`.
Since it seems not to be too much trouble, I would prefer to keep it
working for now, even if it is rarely exercised and regressions might
creep in (like the ones you fixed).
Thanks,
Dscho
