On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:41 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Elijah Newren <newren@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > >> I suspect that the above distorts history. IIRC, it was meant as a > >> tool to see which exact pattern in the exclude sequence had the > >> final say for the given needle, written primarily as a debugging > >> aid. In that context, "This rule has the final say", whether the > >> rule is a negative or positive, still means something. > > > > I can reword it; how does the following sound? > > > > check-ignore claims that it reports whether each path it is given is > > excluded. However, it fails to do so because it did not account for > > negated patterns. > > I am not sure about "claims" part. > > Isn't it more like "check-ignore has been the tool that reports the > rule that has final say on each of the paths it is given, but that > is not very useful when the user wants to see if the path is > excluded (e.g. the rule with the final say may be negative). No, it is not more like that; the check-ignore manpage currently claims this: For each pathname given via the command-line or from a file via --stdin, check whether the file is excluded by .gitignore (or other input files to the exclude mechanism) and output the path if it is excluded. Note also that this description at the beginning of the manpage says nothing about reporting which rule has the final say. And, in fact, the command in default mode does not report which rule or rules were involved. All of that work falls to the --verbose flag, which was documented as Also output details about the matching pattern (if any) for each given pathname. For precedence rules within and between exclude sources, see gitignore(5). Now, if you read both descriptions together, you find that these claims are contradictory and that it cannot do both, so the "Also" bit it leads with is a lie. As such, my commit modified the definition of verbose to make it instead read: Instead of printing the paths that are excluded, for each path that matches an exclude pattern print the exclude pattern together with the path. (Matching an exclude pattern usually means the path is excluded, but if the pattern begins with '!' then it is a negated pattern and matching it means the path is NOT excluded.) This was a change of description for the --verbose flag, not a change of implementation. Thus, in my opinion, no transition period is needed: those who wanted to use check-ignore to see what rule would have matched had to use --verbose before, and --verbose behaves the same as before. Those who wanted to use check-ignore without the --verbose flag to see if a rule is excluded, get corrected behavior that will actually do that.