On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 02:09:07PM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> I see problems in both directions: > >> > >> - sorting by "objectname" works now, but it's marked with SOURCE_OBJ, > >> and would be forbidden with your patch. I'm actually not sure if > >> SOURCE_OBJ is accurate; we shouldn't need to access the object to > >> show it (and we are probably wasting effort loading the full contents > >> for tools like for-each-ref). > >> > >> However, that's not the full story. For objectname:short, it _does_ call > >> find_unique_abbrev(). So we expect to have an object directory. > > > > Oops, I'm apparently bad at reading. It is in fact SOURCE_OTHER, which > > makes sense (outside of this whole "--sort outside a repo thing"). > > > > But we'd ideally distinguish between "objectname" (which should be OK > > outside a repo) and "objectname:short" (which currently segfaults). > > Arguably, use of ref-filter machinery in ls-remote, whether it is > given from inside or outside a repo, was a mistake in 1fb20dfd > ("ls-remote: create '--sort' option", 2018-04-09), as the whole > point of "ls-remote" is to peek the list of refs and it is perfectly > normal that the objects listed are not available. I think it's conceptually reasonable to use the ref-filter machinery. It's just that it was underprepared to handle this out-of-repo case. I think we're not too far off, though. > "ls-remote --sort=authorname" that is run in a repository may not > segfault on a ref that points at a yet-to-be-fetched commit, but it > cannot be doing anything sensible. Is it still better to silently > produce a nonsense result than refusing to --sort no matter what the > sort keys are, whether we are inside or outside a repository? I don't think we produce silent nonsense in the current code (or after any of the discussed solutions), either in a repo or out. We say "fatal: missing object ..." inside a repo if the request cannot be fulfilled. That's not incredibly illuminating, perhaps, but it means we fulfill whatever we _can_ on behalf of the user's request, and bail otherwise. If you are arguing that even in a repo we should reject "authorname" early (just as we would outside of a repo), I could buy that. Technically we can make it work sometimes (if we happen to have fetched everything the other side has), but behaving consistently (and with a decent error message) may trump that. -Peff