On Wed, Oct 03 2018, SZEDER Gábor wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 04:22:12PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 03 2018, SZEDER Gábor wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 04:01:40PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 03 2018, SZEDER Gábor wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 03:23:57PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> >> Don't have time to patch this now, but thought I'd send a note / RFC >> >> >> about this. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now that we have the commit graph it's nice to be able to set >> >> >> e.g. core.commitGraph=true & gc.writeCommitGraph=true in ~/.gitconfig or >> >> >> /etc/gitconfig to apply them to all repos. >> >> >> >> >> >> But when I clone e.g. linux.git stuff like 'tag --contains' will be slow >> >> >> until whenever my first "gc" kicks in, which may be quite some time if >> >> >> I'm just using it passively. >> >> >> >> >> >> So we should make "git gc --auto" be run on clone, >> >> > >> >> > There is no garbage after 'git clone'... >> >> >> >> "git gc" is really "git gc-or-create-indexes" these days. >> > >> > Because it happens to be convenient to create those indexes at >> > gc-time. But that should not be an excuse to run gc when by >> > definition no gc is needed. >> >> Ah, I thought you just had an objection to the "gc" name being used for >> non-gc stuff, > > But you thought right, I do have an objection against that. 'git gc' > should, well, collect garbage. Any non-gc stuff is already violating > separation of concerns. Ever since git-gc was added back in 30f610b7b0 ("Create 'git gc' to perform common maintenance operations.", 2006-12-27) it has been described as: git-gc - Cleanup unnecessary files and optimize the local repository Creating these indexes like the commit-graph falls under "optimize the local repository", and 3rd party tools (e.g. the repo tool doing this came up on list recently) have been calling "gc --auto" with this assumption. >> but if you mean we shouldn't do a giant repack right after >> clone I agree. > > And, I also mean that since 'git clone' knows that there can't > possibly be any garbage in the first place, then it shouldn't call 'gc > --auto' at all. However, since it also knows that there is a lot of > new stuff, then it should create a commit-graph if enabled. Is this something you think just because the tool isn't called git-gc-and-optimzie, or do you think this regardless of what it's called? I don't see how splitting up the entry points for "detect if we need to cleanup or optimize the repo" leaves us with a better codebase for the reasons noted in https://public-inbox.org/git/87pnwrgll2.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/