Hi Peff, On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Jeff King wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:46:29PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Jeff King wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 03:34:16PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > > > > > Rather than have a "hack day", I would actually prefer to work with > > > > other contributors in a way that we have not done before, but which I > > > > had the pleasure of "test ballooning" with Pratik: using Visual Studio > > > > Code Live Share. This allows multiple users to work on the same code > > > > base, in the same worktree, seeing what each other is doing. It > > > > requires a separate communication channel to talk; Pratik & I used > > > > IRC, but I think Google Hangout (or Skype or WhatsApp or > > > > <insert-your-favorite-chat-here>) would have worked a bit better. It's > > > > kind of pair programming, but with some of the limitations removed. > > > > > > OK, I said in my earlier email that I would give any scheme a try, but I > > > really don't like pair programming. ;) > > > > Tastes do differ, and that's okay. > > > > I found it pretty invaluable a tool for intense 1:1 mentoring. It > > definitely helps a lot with getting over the initial hurdles. > > Actually, I would agree that mentoring is probably one of the best uses > for pairing like that. In retrospect, I think we should have done more > real-time collaboration during Outreachy last winter. It's still not my > taste, but I think we could have accomplished more overall. > > Not that I need to convince you, but just seconding your advice for the > benefit of people who are thinking about mentoring in the future. Well, proper mentoring *is* time-consuming. It is not like you're just waiting for code to review, then do exactly the same as on the Git mailing list. That'd not be mentoring. That'd be called "reviewing". I still struggle, personally, to improve my mentoring skills, and at the same time, I find it rewarding and I learn a lot. So I guess you can count me in when it comes to Outreachy. Ciao, Dscho
