Hi Peff, On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Jeff King wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 03:22:39PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > Having said that, I believe that we core contributors can learn to have a > > fruitful online meeting. With 30+ participants, too. > > > > Learning from my past life in academia (it is hard for me to imagine a > > less disciplined crowd than a bunch of white, male, old scientists), we > > would need a moderator, and some forum that allows to "give somebody the > > mic". That software/platform should exist somewhere. > > Yes, I agree that software tools could help a lot with a crowd that > size. I have used various "virtual classroom" tools before, and I think > the core of the idea is there, but I was often unimpressed by the > execution (and expense). So if you know of a good tool, it might be > worth trying. I don't, and I will keep looking. > > I would love to have the best of both worlds. For example, it is an annual > > annoyance that we are discussion all kinds of things regarding Git, trying > > to steer the direction, to form collaborations on certain features, and > > the person at the helm is not even there. > > > > Maybe *two* meetings per year, one attached to GitMerge, and one purely > > online, would help. > > I'm somewhat skeptical of the utility of an online meeting. That said, > I'm willing give it a try (or any other scheme people want to come up > with, for that matter). I am glad you say that. > > Point in favor of the pure-online meeting: the informal standup on IRC > > every second Friday. I really try to attend it (it is a bit awkward > > because it is on a Friday evening in my timezone, right at the time when I > > want to unwind from the work week), as it does have a similar effect to > > in-person standups: surprising collaborations spring up, unexpected help, > > and a general sense of belonging. > > Yes, I've been meaning to make it to another one (I popped in for one a > month or two ago, and it didn't seem like much of anything was > happening). > > What time is it, again? It is supposed to happen every two weeks, on Fridays, 17:00-17:30 UTC: https://public-inbox.org/git/20180713170018.GA139708@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ The latest one is logged here: http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/git-devel?date=2018-08-24#l144 > > Such an online summit as I suggested above would really only work if > > enough frequent contributors would attend. If enough people like you, > > Junio, and the standup regulars would say: yep, we're willing to plan and > > attend an online summit, where we try to have a timezone-friendly > > "unconference"-style meeting on one day (on which we would of course try > > to free ourselves from our regular work obligations). > > > > I guess I am asking for a "raise your hands", with mine high up in the > > air. > > I'll come if you want to organize it. That's a good idea. I am a week away from taking a vacation, and I will try to come back to that idea afterwards and see what I can do there. The more I think about it, the more excited I get about it. Ciao, Dscho