Hi Stolee, On Mon, 27 Aug 2018, Derrick Stolee wrote: > On 8/27/2018 9:22 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > Point in favor of the pure-online meeting: the informal standup on IRC > > every second Friday. I really try to attend it (it is a bit awkward > > because it is on a Friday evening in my timezone, right at the time when I > > want to unwind from the work week), as it does have a similar effect to > > in-person standups: surprising collaborations spring up, unexpected help, > > and a general sense of belonging. > > > > Of course, the value of these standups comes from the makeup of the > > participants: Stefan, Brandon, Stolee, JeffH, Jonathan and other *very* > > active core contributors hang out for roughly half an hour, sharing what > > they are working on, exchanging ideas, etc. > > A focused aside, since you brought up the online "standup": it seems the IRC > channel has been less than ideal, with people trying to participate but having > nickname issues or being muted. You also describe another issue: the timing. > Having a real-time discussion has its benefits, but also it leaves many people > out. > > One idea to try next time is to create a mailing list thread asking for > statuses, and each person can chime in asynchronously and spawn a new > discussion based on that status. Perhaps we can try that next time. Not so sure I like this idea. For me, mails are *extremely* asynchronous. I started already over a decode ago to switch off automatic mail checking, as it interfered with my productivity. And for me, one of the main benefits of a standup is the chiming in from unexpected sides. That's very much a real-time thing, and I don't know how to achieve that otherwise. But for our standup, I could imagine that even so much as shifting it from Friday to any other weekday would decrease the timezone issues (because, you know, weekend). Ciao, Dscho