On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 09:17:56PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Definitely, yes. Even if you look at the impact on code alone and > > don't care about the people, destroying a collegial work environment > > is harmful enough to the code to outweigh the (admittedly often > > useful) patches. > > A collegial work environment is overrated, and proof of that the Linux > kernel, where honest and straight talk is the bread and butter of the > mailing list. And the Linux kernel is the most successful software > project in history by far. It's code that speaks. Sorry, but I don't agree, and I want to publicly state my opinion so that Jonathan (and other bystanders on the list) knows that he is not alone in his opinions. I have consistently found your demeanor on the list to be very unfriendly and difficult to work with. It is one thing to have honest and straight talk, and another thing to be obstinate, unmindful of feedback (both with respect to technical details, as well as to communication styles), and disrespectful of other people. You have accused others of assuming you make comments in bad faith. Perhaps it is true that you are very pleasant and easy to work with in person, but in my opinion that is not the case, at least by email. I may be wrong, of course, and I certainly do not claim to be perfect myself. But I find it telling that many of the list participants seem to have had conflicts with you, and not with anyone else. So perhaps you may want to reconsider your style of communication. Unlike Jonathan, I would not ban you from the list. I do not believe in censoring anybody who is not a direct and constant nuisance (like a spammer). But personally I have a limited capacity for discussion with you, as it seems to have a knack for going back and forth, consuming a lot of time, and ending nowhere productive. It is certainly your choice about how you will communicate. But likewise it is the choice of readers and reviewers to choose how much of their time to give to your writings. -Peff -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html