Jonathan Nieder venit, vidit, dixit 07.10.2011 12:06: > Michael J Gruber wrote: > >> But my main point here is that we should discuss the pros and cons of >> each approach in context (the context of the original thread), and I >> haven't heard many pros and cons for either. > > Ok, here are some thoughts (you can file them under the "pro" or "con" > column according to your taste): > > Branch names are local. You can pull a branch only if you know its name, or using a wildcard refspec. In both cases you know the translation from what is local on the other side to your side. In the vast majority it will be the simple refs/heads/foo -> refs/remotes/bar/foo mapping. > The same tip commit can belong to multiple branches, which would make > using the tip commit as a key for the branch description problematic. Sure, tip commit is a no-go. That's why I propose notes tacked onto refnames. > I don't think git notes are a good fit for this purpose. Why not? I really haven't seen any convincing argument against yet. The details (note attached to refname object, or literal refanmes in the notes tree as per Jeff) should be discussed further, of course, but if branch descriptions aren't "notesy" then I don't know what is. Alternatively, one could store the description in a blob and refer to that directly, of course. I.e., have refs/description/foo point to a blob whose content is the description of the ref ref/foo That would be unversioned, and one could decide more easily which descriptions to share. (A notes tree you either push or don't.) But it still has the advantage of being easily pushable and shareable. Heck, config is config and not metadata ;) > I personally would prefer my branch descriptions to be non-versioned, > though I realize that is a matter of taste. Do you prefer you commit notes to be non-versioned? Probably, but still they are, and you don't need to care. Just don't run log on your notes ref. > Some other information about a branch (such as which upstream branch > it pulls from) is stored in the [branch "<branchname>"] section of the > git configuration, so it makes a certain kind of sense to put the > branch description there, too. On the other hand, the possibility of > a [branch "<branchname>"] section in ~/.gitconfig has always been > strange, and this is no exception. Note that most use cases for branch descriptions that have been described so far (format-patch cover-letter, merge-msg, pull-request message) are about distributing that information. Not very local. >> I'd be surprised if we changed the protocol just to be able to share >> some descriptions, when we have everything we need for sharing refs. > > The impact of such a protocol change would not have to be as dramatic > as you seem to be suggesting. Virtual hosts and peeled ref values > were added as backward-compatible extensions to the reference > discovery protocol (see Documentation/technical/pack-protocol.txt) > which can be taken as examples for inspiration. I don't see how a protocol change could solve the perceived issue with localality of name, and indeed what it could solve that can't be solved with existing methods. > Here's some discussion of the implementation based on branchname-keyed > notes that you mentioned [1]. It is nice to have multiple designs > available for trying out, and I hope experience using each reveals > potential improvements in the other. > > [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/181953/focus=182000 Funny to point me at a thread I participated in, when I'm saying this thread should have continued there ;) Michael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html