On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:42, Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am 11/9/2010 11:52, schrieb Ãvar ArnfjÃrà Bjarmason: >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:36, Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> $ time (for i in {1..100}; do git version; done) > /dev/null >>> >>> real  Â0m5.610s > ... >>> $ time (for i in {1..100}; do eval_gettext foobar; done) > /dev/null >>> >>> real  Â0m20.578s > ... >>> Note that there are only 100 iterations, so we are talking about 0.2 >>> seconds per eval_gettext call! That's an awful lot of time even for a >>> single error message. >> >> Thanks for elaborating. But just so I understand you correctly it's a >> cost of invoking *any* program in shellscripts on Windows? So e.g. 10 >> sed calls would cost the same as 10 git-sh-i18n--envsubst calls (but >> of course 5 eval_gettext() calls, since it calls git-sh-i18n--envsubst >> twice). > > An invocation of sed, cat, etc. (POSIX/MSYS tools) is cheaper by a factor > of 2 than a git invocation for a reason that I do not understand. (Perhaps > it has to do with the number of DLLs that are linked; git has 9 static > dependencies, MSYS tools only 3.) git-sh-i18n--envsubst doesn't need to be linked to anything but the C library. If it is that's because I fat-fingered the Makefile part of the patch. So it should be cheaper than cat/sed etc. if anything. $ ldd -r git-sh-i18n--envsubst linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff163c4000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x00007f742dea6000) libcrypto.so.0.9.8 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 (0x00007f742db05000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f742d8e8000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007f742d587000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f742d383000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f742e0cc000) That's on Linux, it doesn't need libz, libcrypto etc. It just needs standard C library functions along with its own main(). > eval_gettext involves 2 git invocation (git-sh-i18n--envsubst counts as > much as git) and 1 subshell in practice (some subshells are optimized away). > >> So e.g. using eval_gettext once isn't a bigger problem than calling >> some trivial sed substitution twice? > > Look at the timings: In my book, eval_gettext counts like about 8 sed > substitutions. How about if you just replace your tests with "cat". That should give a more accurate indication of what speed it *should* be operating at, once I fix those Makefile issues. Anyway, if it's no more expensive than cat(1) (which it shouldn't be) it probably won't be a problem to use git-sh-i18n--envsubst. Actually I'd rather keep the current calling semantics (using variables in the strings) than improve performance slightly on Windows for what are mostly non-critical error messages. But that's just my opinion. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html