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Hi,

1/ Is it possible to force the download page at least to be https?
There are some companies which provides free certificates with root CA
in all mainstream browsers.

This would be a prerequisite to pretend to provide safe download. For
instance I see the page provides checksums, which is good but is half
meaningless if not provided through a secure channel like https (half
because it still allows download corruption check, but not malevolent
corruption integrity check).

2/ Also still in the download page, could the download links for OS
which have any (Windows and OSX) be made into colorful buttons? I
believe this simplifies the download task.

3/ If the exact Linux distribution (Fedora rightfully detected, for
instance in my case) has been detected, it would be good to have the
install information for this distrib at the top (and maybe even the
others hidden, unless clicking a "see all Linux distribution" link).

4/ As sad as it is (for someone like me whose first distribution was
Mandrake, later known as Mandriva), the Mandriva company has closed
this year. The website has been down for many weeks, thus even though
it has been saved many times in the last years, it seems that this
time, it is really the end. You may as well remove it from the list.

5/ I propose to add Mageia (which is a community fork of Mandriva,
born a few years ago) instead. Same install command as Mandriva.

6/ For Fedora, yum is dead. The right install command is: "dnf install
gimp" (well yum will still work but will output a deprecation warning
and redirect to dnf). Of course, you may provide both commands if you
want to be as backward compatible as possible.

7/ Mint is quite well spread too. I propose to add it to the "Ubuntu,
Debian" list. (Mint is mostly derived from Ubuntu, except for one
version derived from Debian)

8/ We have MD5 checksum for the OSX and Windows binary. I propose that
these are also displayed for these on the webpage (since few people
will go check the download servers if they have direct links).
Probably most users won't care, but I believe this is important that
we still do so.

That's it for now.

Jehan


On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Pat David <patdavid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm close. Today, I finished porting the old tutorials all to the new
> infrastructure, and I _think_ I've finished porting old pages over.
>
> For reference, the list of old URL's for the site can be found on this
> page: http://static.gimp.org/about/meta/file-list.html
>
> The actual list will be linked at the end.
>
> Can anyone please take a moment to eyeball the list and provide any
> feedback?
>
> I am also soliciting any feedback in general on the site (
> http://static.gimp.org). I incorporated some of the changes that jimmac
> suggested, and am still looking for input/suggestions on things like the
> verbiage on the new front page, as well as anywhere else.
>
> If things look ok, I am tentatively planning to have things ready to go by
> the end of the month. Is this timeframe good? Too aggressive? Too slow?
> We should at least have something ready to use for a 20th anniversary of
> GIMP (due on Nov 21 based on Peter's post at
> comp.os.linux.development.apps).
>
> Here is the full URL list (if your client doesn't show the <del> sections,
> view it at the URL above). Strikethrough URL's have been ported to the new
> site.
>
> http://www.gimp.org/archive.html (skipping - deprecated?)
> http://www.gimp.org/index.html  <http://static.gimp.org/index.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/irc.html  <http://static.gimp.org/irc.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/mail_lists.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/team.html  <http://static.gimp.org/team.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/template.html (skipping)
> http://www.gimp.org/webmasters.html <http://static.gimp.org/webmasters.html>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/ancient_history.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/ancient_history.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/authors.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/authors.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/everywhere.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/everywhere.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/history.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/history.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/index.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/introduction.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/introduction.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/linking.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/linking.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/merchandise.html
> http://www.gimp.org/about/prehistory.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/prehistory.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/selling.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/selling.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-1.1.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-1.1.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-1.3.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-1.3.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.1.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.1.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.3.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.3.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.5.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.5.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.7.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-2.7.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/contest/index.html (Seems deprecated - any
> reason to keep this URI?)
>
> http://www.gimp.org/admin/index.html
>
> http://www.gimp.org/announcements/open-usability-gimp.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/news/2006/08/11/open-usability-and-gimp/>(moved to
> a news item - not sure if we need to keep this URI)
>
> http://www.gimp.org/books/index.html <http://static.gimp.org/books/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/bugs/index.html  <http://static.gimp.org/bugs/>
> http://www.gimp.org/bugs/why_bugzilla.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/bugs/why_bugzilla.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/bugs/howtos/bugzilla.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/bugs/howtos/bugzilla.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/bugs/howtos/howto-template.html (skipping -
> test/placeholder data)
> http://www.gimp.org/bugs/howtos/submit-patch.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/bugs/howtos/submit-patch.html>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/contest/index.html (deprecated - not keeping this URI?)
>
> http://www.gimp.org/develop/index.html <http://static.gimp.org/develop/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/index.html  <http://static.gimp.org/docs/>
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/script-fu-update.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/docs/script-fu-update.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/gimp-print/print.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/docs/gimp-print/print.html>(I have to admit to
> having lost interest in updating this page to format properly…)
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/appendix-alpha.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/appendix-threading.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/chapt-intro.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/colophon.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/genindex.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/gloss.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/legalese.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/ln13.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/ln15.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/plug-in.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-image.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-tiles.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-ui.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/index.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/pygimp.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/xhtml11.css
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/xhtml11-quirks.css
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/efficientaccess.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/imagedata.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/index.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/links.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/sample_plugin.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/scheme-overview.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/scheme-sample.html
> http://www.gimp.org/docs/scheme_plugin/script-fu-gimp.html
>
> http://www.gimp.org/donating/index.html  <http://static.gimp.org/donating/>
> http://www.gimp.org/donating/sponsors.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/donating/sponsors.html>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/downloads/>
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/index2.html (this was an example page of mine
> - deprecated)
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/install_help.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/downloads/install_help.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/Linux.html
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/Mac.html
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/source.html
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/Windows.html
>
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_400.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_401.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_403.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_404.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_405.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_408.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_410.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_411.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_412.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_413.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_414.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_501.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_502.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_503.html.var
> http://www.gimp.org/error/HTTP_506.html.var
>
> http://www.gimp.org/features/index.html <http://static.gimp.org/features/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/links/index.html  <http://static.gimp.org/links/>
> http://www.gimp.org/links/org.html <http://static.gimp.org/links/org.html>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/index.html (Obsoleted already - directs folks
> to the downloads page instead)
>
> http://www.gimp.org/man/gimp.html  <http://static.gimp.org/man/gimp.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/man/gimprc.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/man/gimprc.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/man/gimp-remote.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/man/gimprc.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/man/gimptool.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/man/gimptool.html>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/programmatic/xhtml.py
> http://www.gimp.org/programmatic/admin/howto.html
> http://www.gimp.org/programmatic/admin/news/howto-news.html
> http://www.gimp.org/programmatic/contest/index.html
> (These links all appear non-functional. Deprecated?)
>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.2.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.2.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.3.de.html
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.3.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.3.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4-cm.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4-cm.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4-videos.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4-videos.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.5.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.5.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.8.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.8.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/release-notes/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/screenshots/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/source/index.html  <http://static.gimp.org/source/>
> http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimp-git-build.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimp-git-build.html>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/index.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/3d_Logo/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/3D_Logo/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Advanced_Animations/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Advanced_Animations/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Anti-Aliased_Threshold/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Anti-Aliased_Threshold/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Automate_Editing_in_GIMP/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Automate_Editing_in_GIMP/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/AutomatedJpgToXcf/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/AutomatedJpgToXcf/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Color_Curves/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Color_Curves/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Perl/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Perl/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Scheme/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Scheme/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Scheme2/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Scheme2/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Bezier_Selections/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Bezier_Selections/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Blending_Exposures/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Blending_Exposures/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Blown_Out_Highlights/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Blown_Out_Highlights/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Blur_Overlays/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Blur_Overlays/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Borders_On_Selections/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Borders_On_Selections/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_2/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_2/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Color2BW/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Color2BW/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Coloring_A_BW_Sketch/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Coloring_A_BW_Sketch/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ContrastMask/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/ContrastMask/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Creating_Icons/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Creating_Icons/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Custom_Brushes/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Custom_Brushes/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Digital_Black_and_White_Conversion/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Digital_Black_and_White_Conversion/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Draw_A_Paint_Brush/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Draw_A_Paint_Brush/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Drawables/index.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Drawing_Shapes/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Drawing_Shapes/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Film_Grain/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Film_Grain/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Floating_Logo/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Floating_Logo/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/GIMP_Quickies/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/GIMP_Quickies/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Golden_Text/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Golden_Text/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Map/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Golden_Text/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Map/bexcolored.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Map/bexcolorpicker-tuthtml.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Map/bexcolorpicker-tutpop.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Map/imap1.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Map/visibone.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Pipes/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Pipes/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Pipes2/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Pipes2/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Layer_Masks/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Layer_Masks/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Lite_Quickies/flips.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Lite_Quickies/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Layer_Masks/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Lite_Quickies/jpegrace.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Luminosity_Masks/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Luminosity_Masks/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Perl-Debugged/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Perl-Debugged/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Perlotine/index.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Perlotine/nested.html
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Photo_To_Sketch/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Photo_To_Sketch/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Quickmask/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Quickmask/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Red_Eye_Removal/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Red_Eye_Removal/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Reducing_CCD_Noise/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Reducing_CCD_Noise/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Selective_Color/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Selective_Color/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Selective_Gaussian_Blur/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Selective_Color/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Sepia_Toning/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Sepia_Toning/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Sketch_Effect/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Sketch_Effect/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/shortcuts.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/shortcuts.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/warp-sharp.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/warp-sharp.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/template/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/template/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/template/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Tileable_Textures/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/template/>
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Using_GAP/index.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/tutorials/template/>
>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/fonts.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/fonts.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/gimprc.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/gimprc.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/gtkrc.html
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/index.html (Obsoleted? Directs to downloads page…)
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/man-gimp-2.0.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/man-gimp-2.0.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/man-gimprc-2.0.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/man-gimprc-2.0.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/man-gimp-remote-2.0.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/man-gimp-remote-2.0.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/man-gimptool-2.0.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/man-gimptool-2.0.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/user_install.html
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/bugzilla.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/howtos/bugzilla.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/gimp-midi.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/howtos/gimp-midi.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/howto-template.html
> <http://static.gimp.org/unix/fonts.html>
> http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/tile_cache.html
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